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BAM
29-08-2009, 11:34 AM
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?groupid=4

I don't think this breaks any rules. Let me now if it does and I'll delete it.

The Brick
29-08-2009, 11:45 AM
Not a good idea imo... you know exactly what that is going to turn into.

Born2Juice4Ever
29-08-2009, 11:47 AM
I do not believe that the PM system can be used for such activities.

This idea may not be a good one. At least I do not agree with it.

As The Brick said.....IMO it will turn into a push push kind of environment.


B2J

BAM
29-08-2009, 11:53 AM
UG labs need to be discussed as a consumer safety net. IF this can not be done openly on the board, what choice do we have but to take UG discussions underground to the PM level? It'll boil down to trusting the reviewer(s).

The Brick
29-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Take it to emails then... you won't be doing a favor to the board.

Born2Juice4Ever
29-08-2009, 12:16 PM
UG labs need to be discussed as a consumer safety net. IF this can not be done openly on the board, what choice do we have but to take UG discussions underground to the PM level? It'll boil down to trusting the reviewer(s).


There are dedicated web sites for this kind of work. Those are not easy to get into, but they exist.

An open board with UGL discussions will be NOTHING but trouble bro--you and I both know that.

There is also a vast amount of private email hosting companies, those where any given person can discuss details of a lab.
I do understand that you are looking to be able to give the consumer feebback TO EXCHANGE FEEDBACK on any given product....this idea of yours is just not logical :( here.

I know somebody who is currently working on a private Canuck site---


B2J

BAM
29-08-2009, 12:32 PM
You no longer need to be invited to this group. You can just join it.

PUBLIC

JonnyO
29-08-2009, 12:48 PM
I think as long as people follow the rules on the board and most know what lab people are talking about usually when you see the asterisk's you just put two and two together then open discussion is ok as long as the full name is not mentioned.

But what becomes a problem is when new members join up and right away make a thread about a lab asking questions before they have looked around and spent some time reading

GYMBRAT
29-08-2009, 01:11 PM
I agree, some ppl just hit every board mainly to score a source and not even to become part of the boards community

MuSuLPhReAk
29-08-2009, 01:50 PM
I will keep a very close eye on this. If I feel uncomfortable the way it's going, I'll stop it.

If things need to get personal, take it off this site.

If it stays just to honest reviews, it may work. Speaking about quality of stuff is not illegal. Speaking about "having" acquired or trying to acquire is an admission to illegal activity or as the law will put it, "conspiracy to traffic". Be smart boys, it's an open board.

Again, if I feel uncomfortable with it or I feel it can get me in trouble it's gone.

BAM
29-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Thank you MP for being open minded about this social group. Its intent is
not to threaten the board or its members in any way, but to encourage honest member reviews
about the various products on the market. I am hopeful that members will use this
group in the spirit which it was intended.

nitrous
29-08-2009, 04:17 PM
it should not be open.. that is my opinion...

MuSuLPhReAk
29-08-2009, 10:00 PM
it should not be open.. that is my opinion...

The group or the board?

Mr.Freeze
29-08-2009, 10:08 PM
This is not a good thing to have over here. IMO

Felinecougar
29-08-2009, 10:12 PM
You no longer need to be invited to this group. You can just join it.

PUBLIC

WTH......I thought this was okd with MP. Open and not invited is asking for trouble.

I"m on the fence till this is resolved.

BAM
29-08-2009, 10:19 PM
What's so alarming about the group being public? Its not like anyone can write anything, messages are disabled. Its just a list of people that are willing to answer pms regarding their experiences with various labs and unless people have accounts, they can't pm.

Mr.Freeze
29-08-2009, 10:29 PM
With 10 000 Thread and 250 000 post i am pretty sure any one could find there answer to there question, there is no need to PM members for question.

i think im missing something over here??

Felinecougar
29-08-2009, 10:31 PM
I think you all need to wait and see what is in our CBB future.

Beachmuscle
29-08-2009, 10:37 PM
It should be by invite only. Are the PM's encrypted?

MuSuLPhReAk
29-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Pm's are not encrypted. Your data flowing over your network is not encrypted.

As the law goes, it's not passed that LE can monitor your dataflow without a warrant. But with a warrant, they have no problem logging everthing that goes in and out of your internet connection. That's why I keep saying that the net is very unsafe. If you are doing something illegal and LE wants to get you, they will. They'll only take the time to gather enough evidence before knocking your door down. Once they are sure they can prosecute with a conviction, then it'll happen. What is it, 5 months till the olympics?

Want to sleep well at night. Stay away from purchasing AAS online or selling AAS online.

Old school is the probably the most safe way. The glory days of the net have been over for awhile. Enough busts have proven that now. How many more will it take before people get it?

Beachmuscle
30-08-2009, 01:27 AM
Appreciate the info. What about keeping the social group invite only?

Born2Juice4Ever
30-08-2009, 08:45 AM
I see that this is fine with the site...and the group IS gaining momentum.




Perhaps this group will take tension off from the threads :)



B2J

theboss
30-08-2009, 08:57 AM
how does this group work exactly....i got the invite and joined..but what happens now? is it all through PM or an 'invite' only forum hosted by CBB????

Born2Juice4Ever
30-08-2009, 09:01 AM
I am thinking that people WITHIN the list, can PM each other for advise on any particulars?

Instead of posting open threads about it.
But what will happen when Mr Phillips comes along with 4 posts and wants to ask feedback? Will he pin point and pick from the list of joined members?


B2J

BAM
30-08-2009, 09:16 AM
First of all, people here pm eachother anyway asking other members what they think of brand x,y and z. All this group does is list people that are open to this. This will cut down on pms to people who don't wan't to be annoyed with such things.

Could there possibly be a few shills in the group? yeah.. but with 100+ people to ask their opinion, members will sort out who is full of it and who isnt. (just like we already do in the main forums).

IMHO, hosting this group here will only make the labs safer by cutting down on lab related questions in the main forums (which can be searched by 'search engines') and will foster a more relaxed environment where members can feel free to share their opinions. It will also increase membership because if some noob wants to poll people with pms, they need to create an account to do so.

IronRobi
30-08-2009, 11:46 AM
I think it's a good idea as long as it stays invite only. We've all been around these boards for a while and we know who's opinion is good and whose isn't. But to somebody new to the board who is looking for advise does not, and by letting anybody join the group they could get steered in the wrong direction or end up getting scammed.

deleteduser0001
30-08-2009, 12:01 PM
I think it's a good idea as long as it stays invite only. We've all been around these boards for a while and we know who's opinion is good and whose isn't. But to somebody new to the board who is looking for advise does not, and by letting anybody join the group they could get steered in the wrong direction or end up getting scammed.

noobs (0-30posts) are almost 100% of the users who start those threads though, so what would be the point of the group if they are excluded?

faller
30-08-2009, 12:10 PM
noobs (0-30posts) are almost 100% of the users who start those threads though, so what would be the point of the group if they are excluded?

That just makes it too easy for them imo. There's always been an element of trust that can only come with time spent on the board. I thought this was a pretty good idea when it was invite, now thats its open i'm not so sure..

theboss
30-08-2009, 12:43 PM
I thought this was a pretty good idea when it was invite, now thats its open i'm not so sure..

ditto.

deleteduser0001
30-08-2009, 12:45 PM
That just makes it too easy for them imo. There's always been an element of trust that can only come with time spent on the board. I thought this was a pretty good idea when it was invite, now thats its open i'm not so sure..

so whats the point then? it won't prevent stupid threads and the guys that you kinda already know are willing to talk to you, will talk to you?

I am missing something?

Ritch
30-08-2009, 01:00 PM
I think it`s a good idea. If the labs wish to remain more low key this is the way. Lab talk is important. When people say "use the search button" I find is just rediculous. If that`s the case there would be no more new threads or discussions as pretty much everything has been discussed... Starting new threads is seeking new information. The labs change over time so does the input about them. Having the group and making it open defeats the purpose of the group itself. It`s info selected for a selective group, making it open defeats the whole purpose.

BAM
30-08-2009, 01:51 PM
Well, nobody is going to start asking noobs their opinions anyway.. Its easy enough to see who established members are.

Am i missing something?

nitrous
30-08-2009, 03:20 PM
The group or the board?

hey MP.. i think that the board should be open but the group should be invite only and hidden.. possibly even have a hidden section in the board.. it wouldnt be encrypted but it would be just as secure as pm's and provide a level of security that would be suffecient enough for basic talk.. still no sourcing at all obviously...

hyperlite32
30-08-2009, 04:12 PM
That just makes it too easy for them imo. There's always been an element of trust that can only come with time spent on the board. I thought this was a pretty good idea when it was invite, now thats its open i'm not so sure..

I was thinking the same thing. I guess we will see how it goes...

BAM
30-08-2009, 04:15 PM
Its just a list of people that are open to discussing aas privately. There are already rules established on the board about anyone using PMs to sell or buy controlled substances. Nothing changes. There is no need to fear this group in any way.

LIVEHARD
30-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Its just a list of people that are open to discussing aas privately. There are already rules established on the board about anyone using PMs to sell or buy controlled substances. Nothing changes. There is no need to fear this group in any way.

agreed 100%

can we invite guys we know and trust

IronRobi
30-08-2009, 04:55 PM
noobs (0-30posts) are almost 100% of the users who start those threads though, so what would be the point of the group if they are excluded?

The point is the noobs can see the list of experienced members and pm them and know they'll get an honest response. If it's open to the public to join then every 18yr old board member with 10 posts are going to join and start giving shitty advise to run 1g Tren/week by itself. I say keep the members to invite only but allow others to view who is a member.

Iwant2Grow
30-08-2009, 05:07 PM
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Iwant2Grow
30-08-2009, 05:07 PM
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Iwant2Grow
30-08-2009, 05:19 PM
i really appreciate peoples feed back on this site in all aspects of my training. So if
if this group allows people to get a unbiased opinion then i'm all for that. But i don't think just anyone should be able to join. Hopefully that will keep unbiased and reduce the shilling going on.

I also like to keeping sensitive issues regarding labs low key as the less LE can read openly the better for us and the site .

just my 2 cents


(not sure how come it triple posted my apologies )

deleteduser0001
30-08-2009, 05:52 PM
Well, nobody is going to start asking noobs their opinions anyway.. Its easy enough to see who established members are.

Am i missing something?

everything?

the noobs asking vets from a list their opinions than a noob asking a vet with a high post count their opinion or not.


this seems silly with the veracity that you defend your idea but refuse to accept all the counter points against it.

pseclint
31-08-2009, 12:14 AM
I made the cut.... Im smart....

BAM
31-08-2009, 11:57 PM
100th member just joined.

Felinecougar
01-09-2009, 12:00 AM
This is nothing that hasn't been done before on our sites.

Old news, different players.

BAM
01-09-2009, 12:08 AM
This is nothing that hasn't been done before on our sites.

Old news, different players.

Really? I thought it was an idea inspired by the current 'SHHHH' forum climate. Which other sites have this same open concept PM review group. I'd like to join them. links plz.

The Grim Repper
01-09-2009, 12:13 AM
ok, is there a wall or something we can post on or is it just members in a group?

Born2Juice4Ever
01-09-2009, 12:15 AM
Really? I thought it was an idea inspired by the current 'SHHHH' forum climate. Which other sites have this same open concept PM review group. I'd like to join them. links plz.


I think what she meant is reviews and or feedback by vets or vips from the sites.
Here at CBB, there are NO ranks, and although it is a fairly young population, there are a few that have been around for a number of years. And those who have seen the demographics change a few times over.



B2J

Felinecougar
01-09-2009, 12:19 AM
there are a few that have been around for a number of years. And those who have seen the demographics change a few times over.



B2J

Counting the candles on my birthday cake your baking for me are you?

BAM
01-09-2009, 12:24 AM
ok, is there a wall or something we can post on or is it just members in a group?

Well, right now.. messages are disabled in the group itself and essentially its just a list of people that are open to being PM'd regarding their results and experiences with gear x,y,z..( safest thing to do when first created)

Its not MY group, its our group so obviously its open to be discussed as to how it should be used and ran.

Probably opening up moderated messaging within the group to discuss the group itself might be a good idea, of course there would be no aas brand talk allowed there, only suggestions and discussion about the group. AAS talk would still be PM's only. Does that work?

The Grim Repper
01-09-2009, 12:30 AM
Seems ok.

faller
01-09-2009, 12:38 AM
Its not MY group, its our group so obviously its open to be discussed as to how it should be used and ran.

Invite only and only members of the group can see that you are a member of said group in your profile.. I honestly do not feel comfortable talking AAS to a member that has just joined.. If it does stay open i'll be leaveing the group...Thats my honest opinion.

BAM
01-09-2009, 12:45 AM
Time for a poll..

Diesel_250
01-09-2009, 04:22 PM
I think it should be invite only

BAM
03-09-2009, 11:23 PM
If you are a member of this social group can you please visit and post in this thread when you have a free moment, It will help give the group a kickstart.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=8

GYMBRAT
04-09-2009, 12:16 AM
Done Deal BAM^^........Invite only is cool in my books

KINE
04-09-2009, 02:08 AM
I agree, it should be invite only

tony_canuck
04-09-2009, 10:59 AM
invite makes sense

Big D
04-09-2009, 10:59 PM
ya sounds like a good idea.

BAM
06-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Hey guys/gals..

If you are still interesed in being a part of this still developing group, can you at least post in this particular social group thread:

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=8&pp=10&page=3

Regular posting is not a manditory thing for this group, but it would be great if members could post in at least this one thread. So far only 23 have posted.

BAM
07-09-2009, 05:55 PM
Come on guys, we need input on how to manage this group @ the group discusion.
Please contribute to this thread.
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=8&pp=10&page=3

and feel free to add your opinions in the other discussion threads.
The more that are involved in its development, the better it will be.

Felinecougar
07-09-2009, 08:50 PM
Tell me how to get out of it?

Ritch
07-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Tell me how to get out of it?

I just did this by accident. On the lower right part of the screen it said "leave social group" I clicked on it and I think it asked me if I was sure, so I clicked yes. Then I realized I was out of the group. So Bam, could you send me another invite? Why are you leaving FC?

Ritch
07-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Tell me how to get out of it?

But even if you do get out, once a member, always a member... We will find you!!!

C-money
07-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Tell me how to get out of it?

You think you can just join then leave? You know too much FC! Like Ritch said we will find you!;)

faller
07-09-2009, 09:00 PM
But even if you do get out, once a member, always a member... We will find you!!!

Thats right, no one can just leave!! Once a member always a member!

GYMBRAT
07-09-2009, 09:01 PM
Hey FC don't worry I'll protect ya from these bullies if needed ;)

Ritch
07-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Hey FC don't worry I'll protect ya from these bullies if needed ;)

You and what army? We out number you and have bigger "guns" Resistance is futile...

Ritch
07-09-2009, 09:14 PM
oh shit, big daddy is playing on t.v. Will check back on your disobedience later on...

GYMBRAT
07-09-2009, 09:18 PM
lmfao!! ^^ there's way's ;)

gicantor
07-09-2009, 09:38 PM
Invite only. That way you can make sure they're a trusted knowledgable member and actullay have quality posts.

Just make sure you invite me!:greet

Mr Ontario
07-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Your gay :)


oh shit, big daddy is playing on t.v. Will check back on your disobedience later on...

BAM
11-09-2009, 01:00 AM
Tell me how to get out of it?

no prob..

I punted you like a football

For anyone else still interested that hasn't posted in this thread: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=8
please do so before Monday as the first membert cut will be people that have not posted in this particular thread.

BAM
14-09-2009, 07:19 AM
For anyone else still interested that hasn't posted in this thread: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=8
please do so before Monday as the first membert cut will be people that have not posted in this particular thread.

last call