sjfou
25-08-2009, 01:54 AM
Say i wanted to break through a fat-loss plateau & either didnt have access to clen or didnt want to use it & decided to buy a OTC fat burner.
It seems alot of the US based fat burners focus/rely on yohimbine as a magic ingredient, and whilst i dont think it will make or break a product, as theyre all glorified ECA stacks, how effective are the ones that have it missing? In Australia (& Canada i believe, hence why im asking here) its a prohibted import.
ALOT of the big name & internationally popular/well reviewed products available here in Aus, have it in the original US version, yet the local version doesnt, to name a few:
Nutrex Lipo6x
MHP Dren
VPX Meltdown
BSN Astro-Phex
Biotest Hot Rox
SAN Tight
Cytogenix Xenadrine
Yet all the "studies" & advertisements we see are based on the effectiveness of it as an ingredient, as in the exact same ones with the exact same studies/results pictured in US mags.
Allegedly there are herbs with almost identical properties that could be used as replacement ingredients in the "international" versions, or would we be better using one that didnt include it in the first place, such as Gaspari Cytolean & Isatori Lean System 7 to name but 2?
It seems alot of the US based fat burners focus/rely on yohimbine as a magic ingredient, and whilst i dont think it will make or break a product, as theyre all glorified ECA stacks, how effective are the ones that have it missing? In Australia (& Canada i believe, hence why im asking here) its a prohibted import.
ALOT of the big name & internationally popular/well reviewed products available here in Aus, have it in the original US version, yet the local version doesnt, to name a few:
Nutrex Lipo6x
MHP Dren
VPX Meltdown
BSN Astro-Phex
Biotest Hot Rox
SAN Tight
Cytogenix Xenadrine
Yet all the "studies" & advertisements we see are based on the effectiveness of it as an ingredient, as in the exact same ones with the exact same studies/results pictured in US mags.
Allegedly there are herbs with almost identical properties that could be used as replacement ingredients in the "international" versions, or would we be better using one that didnt include it in the first place, such as Gaspari Cytolean & Isatori Lean System 7 to name but 2?