pct

[Damonic]

Would clomid and adex be good for pct as opposed to clomid and nolva? Say 50mg clomid for 4 weeks and .25mg adex ed?

[Born2Juice4Ever]

It really boils down to what compounds, length and AMOUNTS you have used.

THERE IS NO set PCT protocol for ALL cycles.

So:

-How long was your cycle?
-What compounds?
-AMOUNT in MGs used

Once we establish those basics, only then can PCT protocol be built.


B2J

[Damonic]

1 gram test and 450 eq for a year. I know i probably need 50 days of pct. I want to go off for 3 months before i bulk

[Born2Juice4Ever]

1 gram test and 450 eq for a year. I know i probably need 50 days of pct. I want to go off for 3 months before i bulk

YOU will be in the 2/10 ratio, being able to bounce back in 50 days.


Why was this cycle extended for so long?
Please specify gains throughout.



B2J

[Damonic]

I just stayed on for to long but the gains stopped. Got in the best shape ever. I dont know why I stayed on so long.

[JonnyO]

Your going to have to get blood work done before you get back on to make sure everything is functioning back to normal again bro. 1 year straight of test/EQ is way too long, not a very smart move. Your going to need everything, HCG, Clomid 100mg a day for a while, Arim I would opt for Aromasin instead as Arim is bad for the lipid profile and maybe a bit too strong for PCT as you want a bit of estrogen present. I think it will take a lot longer than 3 months to recover from this cycle personally.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Johnny read my mind.

Of course the gains stopped!!! There is a certain point when the receptors call it quits....
I am not here to judge you, as I too have done strong long cycles, but I have learned over the years that those are the most difficult ones to recover from.
After several long cycles under my belt, I would never again do anything more than 16 weeks. NO NEED TO.--even if EQ is involved.


cycle of such, is going to require an aggressive aggressive pct protocol.... I can set up a laydown for you, but IT will take more than 3 months!!! And it will require that you monitor your blood levels carefully.


B2J

[ironwill]

Honestly, no-one can tell you mthe answer you are looking for.except a doc.....I know some guys that bounce back quickly after a yr or more on...a lot depends on where you were when you started hormone level wise....age, recovery ability...
personally i would taper off cutting doses for a few weeks, then start pct...Id start hcg now...Personally i dont use high amounts of chlomid....50 mg per day with aromasin will work nice.....Id go on chlomid for at least 2-3 weeks, and then stay on aromasin at 12.5-25 mg per day for at least 4 weeks....
then stop everything, wait for a month being clean from everything pct related, then get bloodwork....
lh, fsh, alt, ast, creatinine, potassium, bun, free test levels, rbc etc minimum..

[GYMBRAT]

absolute top notch advise ironwill!!! Great advise guys!

[zziggzzigg]

I tried arimidex in pct before and didn't like it, now I stick to clomid and nolva

[Damonic]

Thanks for all the advice