Time Off = Time On..........

[Xplode]

Does everyone follow this?

I finished a cycle the last week of November and I am now almost finished my PCT. My problem is I am all too ready to start again. I was thinking Feb 1st...Is this way too soon? If I go to get blood work done and my levels are ****ed will my doc question me? does everyone wait the 12-16 weeks? (or whatever your cycle was)

I was on:

1-14 750mg TEST E
1-5 d-bol 40mg ED

PCT
NOLVA & CLOMID

[pseclint]

blood tests will tell all.........

[Xplode]

well, i guess it's a rule of thumb for the newbee type but i also know you feel super good and look awsome.. but in reality, give your body time to totaly clean (who said that?) hahah but ya some have said (if you cycle) 2-3 times a year.. but all depends if your cycle was 4 months, then you dont' HAVE TO wait 4 months, but nice to see you with pct, and .... This is hard as everyone is diffrent, and some stay onn all year just to have in em.. and others will do 1 cycle a year. But i'd say Start with that rule of thumb and you'll be ok.. but i'd start from day of you last pct ;) get some extra cleaning time and can try to get some good quality gains.. Dont' get me wront gear rules, but i'm trying to be rational...lol, (who keeps saying these things)

later

Thanks for the thoughts...This was my 3rd cycle of 2007. I don't do more than 3 per year and I usually wait atleast 8-10 weeks sometimes less :) between.

[Xplode]

blood tests will tell all.........


Well that was part of my original question. If I go for blood work and my levels are low/very low will my doctor not wonder why this 25 year old man in what seems to be excellent physical and mental shape has such low test levels :confused: I don't want to set off alarm bells...But I guess it would be good to know regardless:cool:

[pseclint]

be completley honest with your doctor it will pay off...... he will keep everything confidential and they usually just preach a bit as a worst case scenario

[Big D]

hey man, I totally agree wiht everything above, giving your body a long enough break off is a good idea, it sucks cauz you dont feel like superman anymore. but if you rush into another cycle right away you usualy dont get as good results as you did from your cycle before. thats what happens to me anyways.

[BAM]

be completley honest with your doctor it will pay off...... he will keep everything confidential and they usually just preach a bit as a worst case scenario

UNtil you try and get life insurance. If your doctor writes it down.

[Xplode]

UNtil you try and get life insurance. If your doctor writes it down.

See that is one thing I never thought about...

[Bowlcut]

Go to your doc and if things are low you can come up with a million excuses. As long as you do not say "I used steroids" there is no way anyone will know because you could always as him to throw away the results.

Nothing wrong with getting bloodwork done. Just say you have been tired lately with low libido. If your levels are low then he will just tell you to get some rest, more sleep, etc.

[Bowlcut]

The only way they could tell you were on gear is if your test levels were extremely high.

If you are on gear just don't run any test, LH, SHBG, or FSH.

Run prolactin, estradiol, progenelone, colesterol profile, liver profile, and creatinine.

It would also be good to test for TSH if you are running GH.

[kyle]

Does everyone follow this?

I finished a cycle the last week of November and I am now almost finished my PCT. My problem is I am all too ready to start again. I was thinking Feb 1st...Is this way too soon? If I go to get blood work done and my levels are ****ed will my doc question me? does everyone wait the 12-16 weeks? (or whatever your cycle was)

I was on:

1-14 750mg TEST E
1-5 d-bol 40mg ED

PCT
NOLVA & CLOMID

I think you should be happy if your doctor questions you, hes just trying to do his job if thats what happens. But back to topic There is no dates set in stone of when it's ok to start or stop I did 3 cycles way to close together when I started and I was 18. I have been clean for a bit more then a year now and it took me quite awhile to start to feel really normal again about 8 months. My sex drive bounced back fast in about 10 weeks after my last cycle which had tren in it but to really feel well took many months. My advice unless you really want to pursue bodybuilding stay off until your weight and strength are stable for a few months after your done PCT.

[Realist]

RBC, Hct levels (usually increased). Test/Estradiol diferrentials and levels. Other hormone levels. They may not be able to say for sure without testing for things directly. However, they may be able to draw some informal conclusions through indirect differentials. Then again, heavy exercise, and a high protein diet, can give similair results. Well, except the test/estradiol differentials/levels.

[td1111]

ZRT Labs can test your hormone levels with saliva. I order the cheaper 3-hormone kit ($85) from here: http://www.primordialperformance.com/zrt_kit.cfm
I ship it to a postal depot just across the border (10 mins from my home in Vancouver). Once I know it's there, I get there first thing in the morning when they open(saliva needs to be taken first thing upon waking). I spend 10 minutes sitting in my car filling the tube with spit. Then just seal it up and drop it in a mailbox. Results arrive by mail shortly thereafter.

Probably not as good as blood tests, but at least I can make sure some of my important levels like test and est are back to baseline before I cycle again, while avoiding doctors all together. I took a baseline test before my last cycle (after I was off for 6-8 months and fully recovered). I don't test while on cycle, I only test before I start a new cycle to see if I'm back to baseline.