WTF is going on?

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

lately more often then not
I feel like shit after training mostly mentally like anxious sometimes worst then others?
i thought maybe it was from taking pre-workout drinks and it was either the comedown or just the way it made me feel. But i've been to the gym without taking it and still i get very anixous, paranoid at times after training!


anyone go through this at times?




TVG

[Durk]

I get like this when I start a program like DC. It tends t go away after a while.

[ironwill]

tren?????
never, sometimes i get nervous and anxious to beat a lift or something....never paranoid.....
that must suck dude.........do you get anxiety attacks??

if you say yes to tren, then look no further...

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

no tren^^^^^^

i have'nt been on anything in over a year


i have had a history have attacks but in public places ?? around lots of people

maybe i'll go to the docs and ask for something?


TVG

[Andre]

This sounds like a sign of over training... This is pretty well documented... My advice would be to take a week or 2 off from the gym and see how you feel...

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/training/what_you_dont_know_overtraining_2.htm

Overtraining and Mood

Some researchers even believe that chronic stress may eventually lead to “adrenal exhaustion syndrome” (7). This is that inability to mount an adequate stress response we just talked about. Some of the health complications that occur due to a blunted stress response and altered heart rate variability include higher levels of phobic anxiety and/or panic, depression, and an increased risk of cardiac death (11,15,16). A closer look at overtraining and mood disorder reveals a strong connection between the two syndromes.

A review by Raglin (17) mentioned that aerobic exercise has been found beneficial for anxiety, but after a bout of weight training exercise, anxiety may not be reduced. This may be due to the chronic sympathetic activation that occurs with the sympathetic form of overtraining.

In terms of depression, perhaps chronically elevated concentrations of cortisol lead to the “adrenal exhaustion syndrome” and depression described by Armstrong & VanHeest (7). Some studies have suggested that depression can be triggered by chronic exposure to high circulating concentrations of cortisol. Surprisingly, some athletes with overtraining exhibit the same stress dysfunction as depressed patients, and there may be a similar dose-response relationship between stressful events and depression as well as between stressful events and overtraining syndrome (7).

To make things more confusing, overtraining can also produce physiological symptoms that mimic depression, like decreased libido and psychomotor retardation (18). Raglin (17) suggests a positive correlation between increased training and elevations in mood disturbances, such that mood disturbance becomes progressively worse as training is increased and mood improves when training is tapered. However this may only hold true if training is reduced early on in the overtraining syndrome (sympathetic type) since recovery may take as long as a year if training is not reduced before the parasympathetic type kicks in.

If this happens in an elite athlete, it could signal the end of a career. Therefore, because of this potential (and since the signs and symptoms of depression and overtraining share striking similarities) it has been suggested that some of the future pharmacological therapies for overtraining may involve antidepressant medications in order to restore performance (7).

At this point, it’s important to note that over training stress and mood disorders are so closely related that the list of stress system dysregulation disorders below could also be a list of the symptoms of sympathetic and parasympathetic types of overtraining. Of course, full-blown panic and anorexia aren’t necessarily going to be associated with overtraining. But I wouldn’t be surprised if sympathetic overtraining led to mild panic (i.e. ever gone without eating for a while?) or a reduced appetite (many athletes report reduced appetite when suffering sympathetic overtraining).

[L3]

what is your diet like post workout? are you getting enough carbs in you.... i get light headed/chills/super anxious if i dont have my seciond PWO meal on time

[tex]

^ same. i get all shaky and feel weird if I dont eat enough post-workout......could be over-training as well......

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

thing is i just had a full week off before that and still before that it was on going for a few weeks and missed a full week llast month also so the overtraining i think is not the cause


but maybe my diet is:o

before i go to the gym i eat a only protein meal then 45 mins later i'll have a cup of oatmeal and some veggies??
is this not enough?

TVG

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

oh and also thanks for taking the time to give opinions on this issue!


TVG

[Timbo89]

what about protein after a workout? no?

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

what about protein after a workout? no?

a can of tuna and a medium size steak


TVG

[LIVEHARD]

lately more often then not
I feel like shit after training mostly mentally like anxious sometimes worst then others?
i thought maybe it was from taking pre-workout drinks and it was either the comedown or just the way it made me feel. But I've been to the gym without taking it and still i get very anxious, paranoid at times after training!


anyone go through this at times?




TVG

Yep gear stress Your moving to the unknown could be a huge subconscious reason I have been pissi and angry and sad all in 5 min

[L3]

a can of tuna and a medium size steak
TVG

you need carbs after your workout bro...even some OJ or pop right after your workout... some whey protein would be good as well