Run A-dex from week 1 or from week 4? Bloat gyno prevention etc.

[Ah...Fk]

Hey guys,

I am runnin 500mg test EW and 60 MG TBOL ED

I plan on taking .5mg EOD of Arimidex to prevent bloating and gyno symptoms. I know many would not bother until symptoms appear but I do not want any bloat.

I am not really worried about these symptoms with the TBOL so should I start the Arimimdex asap or wait until the test "kicks in" around week 4 before I start?

THX

[hyperlite32]

I think arimidex takes about 2 weeks to build up stable blood levels. But if you run a long ester test, then just start the adex when you start pinning.

[JonnyO]

Start it up now bro 1/2 tab in the morning.

[Ah...Fk]

Thanks guys. Ill get on the Adex pronto

[nitrous]

keep in mind it will limit gains

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

i only ever planned on taking it when needed?
and never had to!


this is fine no?



TVG

[gustavo77]

keep in mind it will limit gains

Water and fat gains that is....

[hyperlite32]

^YUP^

[nitrous]

Water and fat gains that is....

according to anabolics 2009 it limits muscle gain as well..

my personal experience is i think that i feel stronger and better without taking anti-e but i just hate the water retention i get in the face..

[gustavo77]

according to anabolics 2009 it limits muscle gain as well..

my personal experience is i think that i feel stronger and better without taking anti-e but i just hate the water retention i get in the face..

Limits muscle gains but at what dose?? Taking an AI at at moderate dose will only lower estrogen back down to around normal range on cycle....there will still be more than enough estrogen available for IGF-1 production...

You do not need higher than normal levels of estrogen to build muscle....estrogen plays a very small role in anabolism, testosterone plays the LARGE part....otherwise women would naturally have a higher percentage of lean mass than men...

Just think, 500mg of test per week on cycle is more than 5x the normal amount...how much higher on cycle do you think your estrogen levels will be??

In addition to water retention and gyno, high estrogen levels increase SHBG, lowering free-testosterone - the good stuff...

[nitrous]

Limits muscle gains but at what dose?? Taking an AI at at moderate dose will only lower estrogen back down to around normal range on cycle....there will still be more than enough estrogen available for IGF-1 production...

You do not need higher than normal levels of estrogen to build muscle....estrogen plays a very small role in anabolism, testosterone plays the LARGE part....otherwise women would naturally have a higher percentage of lean mass than men...

Just think, 500mg of test per week on cycle is more than 5x the normal amount...how much higher on cycle do you think your estrogen levels will be??

In addition to water retention and gyno, high estrogen levels increase SHBG, lowering free-testosterone - the good stuff...


yeah i was along your thinkin a few months ago as well.. even on my current cycle i decided to run adex at 1mg EOD for 2 weeks to see what happened... thinking maybe the lower estrogen will reduce SHBG and i might make more gains.. i felt almost weaker when i did that.. my water retention went down which was great but it felt like i was weaker too... and other literature seems to agree with it.. would be nice to get another opinion on it.. Preatorian comes to mind..

Gus it isn't that i do not believe what you are saying.. just always nice to get others opinions ya know

[Ritch]

Even if you got the arimidex now and turns out you don`t need it on this cycle. Chances are as you progress and up your doses you will eventually need it anyways...