Got ripped off (bad gear)

[Peter]

So I pretty much found out today that I have no idea what the heck I'm shooting into my butt the last 5 weeks. Basically I bought some gear from a friends friend and his phone is no longer is use. I know its bad because I haven't put on a single pound, no strength gains, absolutely nothing. I feel completely normal.

The question:
Should I go see a doctor and find out what the hell I've been putting into my body or what?

[greekgod]

What is the gear supposed to be?

I wouldn't go to the doctor unless you start experiencing any kind of problems such as swelling or lumps.

[canadianmuscle0803]

who told you it was fake? some gear takes longer to work then 5 weeks.. pics of the gear? brand etc.. thanks

[Peter]

It is suppose to be Test Enanthate.

The jug says but it has to have been repacked or something. I've cycled before and gain weight immedately (I'm skinny).

[canadianmuscle0803]

did some reading on , looks like their a legit company in halifax that makes it, but it also looks like there are fakes of it as well.. just google it.. lots of info on it..

[Peter]

Yea that's all I've been doing lately, looking it up on google and such.
I'll get some pics of it tomorrow morning for a heads up for you guys.
Know what you look out for!

[canadianmuscle0803]

put up a pic and ill find out if its the real deal or the fake stuff.. cheers..

[canadianmuscle0803]

just find a good source and stick with him.. im sure you wont have that much trouble doing so.. just dont be silly and start pming guys on here..

[Peter]

just find a good source and stick with him.. im sure you wont have that much trouble doing so.. just dont be silly and start pming guys on here..

I wasn't going to do that haha but yea I'll put a pic, its just really dark now and I'll have to use my cell phone cam.

[Tiamat]

Try to get some good quality pics. We'll also try to get some legit pics and compare. Maybe we can add it to our fake gear collection pics.

[Tiamat]

Oh ya, you won't be able to post the pics in this section as steroid pics are reserved for the steroid pictures section and you need 50 posts to post in there. Either post up a bit or contact one of us to forward the pics to and we'll get on it :)

[tex]

Its hard to source out a reliable person for this stuff jeeze. way to work that one in ;) Everyone gets burned at least once....The only "100%" will be from a doctor....it would be awesome if you posted pics of the bad stuff tho!

[giannos]

^^^^ Haha, I thought I was the only one who noticed that......

[Houstonbc]

is it in a brown bottle?

[flapjack]

It is real. made locally. it is UG., not the pharma in Halifax. It is said to be under dosed. Brown bottle, red and white lable, yes?

A search of Cytex on this forum will show you that.

[theboss]

^^^^ Haha, I thought I was the only one who noticed that......

it was SOOOOOO SSSSMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baza]

You shouldn't even be touching steroids.

[ironwill]

This post was reported, seems to be ok so far.....just dont be asking for sources etc....we will be good...IMO, its good info to know that a lab is not up to par, but we really need to be sure before chucking stones....how many cycles have you done, what was your diet like etc.......
Keep it clean and it can stay up.......unless someone else sees a problem with this post, we can remove it....
thanks guys....looks like its being moderated by our great members anyways....good work fellas....:D

[manfreakca]

wats all this fake shit latley??steroids are bad for u anyway

[theboss]

wats all this fake shit latley??steroids are bad for u anyway

you gotta really wonder how much is fake..and how much the user is the problem....lack of knowledge...poor diet and training etc...

i would think that even underdosed gear would put most over natural test levels so they should make gains if diet & training are good........just my opinion...although i think having underdosed products would suck alot...i am sure we have all got some at one point in time.

[St]

wats all this fake shit latley??steroids are bad for u anyway

Ya it getting very sad now,almost better off beening Natural and saving your money.
But with powder hard to get in,guess we will see knock-offs.I remember a few guy back in the last 1990's that were sick of all the Fake HG amps,and fake Vet stuff and so they went clean.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Hummmm...before all, I am very interested in your cycling experience?

How old are you?
Time training?
Experience with gear?


I am not sying that THIS could be the case with you, but I have seen, and often, when a new person to juice tries something, and does not get the:
-YOU will blow up real fast and bad in days

Results, they start blaming the gear.

ANabolics, just like anything else, is a process, it is a project.

How is your diet? Are you intaking enough proteins?
How much do you weight?

Enanthate will vary in time frames. For some the general results will yield 4 weeks, while others may be longer.

I am just trying to angle this from a different perspective.

...but what do I know...

B2J

[elmatador]

imo, cytex is garbage. I gained much more with other labs while on the same diet and nutrition.

Just think about it, why would a UGL call themselves CYTEX? Just so that people can be fooled by this UGL pretending to be the pharma grade CYTEX from Halifax

[guym]

You say you're "skinny" what does that mean? I'm holding back the obvious comments for now ;)

[baza]

You say you're "skinny" what does that mean? I'm holding back the obvious comments for now ;)

That's why my "You shouldn't even be touching steroids." comment came out. He obviously doens't know what the hell he is doing.

I'm eating three big meals a day and I can't gain weight!

[azian257]

imo, cytex is garbage. I gained much more with other labs while on the same diet and nutrition.

Just think about it, why would a UGL call themselves CYTEX? Just so that people can be fooled by this UGL pretending to be the pharma grade CYTEX from Halifax

no kidding...just like supplement companies naming their products Anadrall, D-Bawl, etc.

[Peter]

Sorry guys I'm not like mad skinny, I'm 5'11 at 155. I did a cycle before, I just have a high metabolism. I took a few pics and a member will be putting it up. It is a brown bottle with red cytex printed on the label.

[tiramisu]

5' 11" @ 155. You need to learn how to eat in a serious way.

[kloan]

^^For real...

Have you noticed any other effects, such as oily skin, higher than normal blood pressure, any increase in libido, etc?

The way I see it, there are only two reasons to cycle:

A) To put pack on as much muscle as possible, meaning EAT EAT EAT!!

or

B) To maintain muscle while dieting.


So since you're obviously not doing B, you need to work on your diet to achieve A. Test sometimes doesn't kick in for some people til 7 weeks, and you need to be eating a lot more as well to notice anything significant.

..

[Ritch]

Sorry guys I'm not like mad skinny, I'm 5'11 at 155. I did a cycle before, I just have a high metabolism. I took a few pics and a member will be putting it up. It is a brown bottle with red cytex printed on the label.

That`s how much I weighed when I started minus 5 lbs. C`mon dude this is just rediculous. Gained a good 25 lbs my first year then another 20 the next, some fat for sure but ate lot`s of food. This was without protein powder, never mind gear, lol...

You`re posting in the wrong section. Check out the nutrition and training area. I read about gear for years before trying it.

[Peter]

^^For real...

Have you noticed any other effects, such as oily skin, higher than normal blood pressure, any increase in libido, etc?

The way I see it, there are only two reasons to cycle:

A) To put pack on as much muscle as possible, meaning EAT EAT EAT!!

or

B) To maintain muscle while dieting.


So since you're obviously not doing B, you need to work on your diet to achieve A. Test sometimes doesn't kick in for some people til 7 weeks, and you need to be eating a lot more as well to notice anything significant.

..

Last time I cycled I was eating like a pig but I don't feel like it now. I used to be 135 lbs.

[BAM]

you gotta really wonder how much is fake..and how much the user is the problem....lack of knowledge...poor diet and training etc...

i would think that even underdosed gear would put most over natural test levels so they should make gains if diet & training are good........just my opinion...although i think having underdosed products would suck alot...i am sure we have all got some at one point in time.

Yeah that the thing, first timers probably do not notice and make gains from underdosed gear but when you have done HG and UG gear that is dosed well, and then you get slipped some underdosed gear, you gotta shoot 1200mgs to get the same strength and size gains and sides as 600mgs of properly dosed gear. Its not so much the extra cost that bothers me, its all that extra unnecessary oil I have to inject to get the dosage I want.

[declan]

I'm at 160lbs right now and I'm 5'5, unless you have really small bone structure you might want to re think your plans.

I think you need to eat more... Spend more money on steak, eggs and lots of clean carbs; hell maybe you could get away with eating ice cream and calorie loaded foods if your metabolism is as crazy as you describe.

Cheers.

[Ritch]

Last time I cycled I was eating like a pig but I don't feel like it now. I used to be 135 lbs.

I have heard this so many times, just like a fat chick who says "But I eat like a bird and still can`t loose weight..." Then when they tell you what they`re eating, everything is wrong. Not everybody here agree`s on what the ideal diet is, but one thing for sure you should be getting 6 portions of protein in your day. Are you doing this? I hope you know this, but the diet is something that has to be followed through on a daily baisis. Just for the hell of it, post us your typical daily diet.

[Damonic]

Cytex is an underground lab that the rep used to try and pass off as hg. I personally am not a fan of them. I used them many years ago and wouldnt use them again.

[O-Train]

I have some questions. This is your second cycle? What was the first one? How long have you been training for? How old are you? Roughly how many grams of protein/calories do you eat per day? What is your dosing protocol (frequency and quantity) you never mentioned how much you're taking. Why are you taking steroids (not to say, "hey you're too small for that" just, what do you hope to achieve?

[baza]

5'11 155lbs is pretty skinny.

Post your diet when you 'ate like a pig'. Probably over 100 times I've been told by people they 'eat like a pig', and I get them to write their diet out for a few days, and it's a complete joke. At the very most they will have 3 decent sized meals. The grand total is often around 2000 calories or less.

[Peter]

My diet consist of 3500 calories daily. My last cycle I did TNT250, 1cc per week and went from 135 to 160 after PCT I lost 5 lbs and now I'm 155. I've been training for about 3 years now, last cycle was about 1.5 years ago. Right now like 5 weeks into current cycle I haven't gained a pound, no appetite, nothing. My last cycle I actually wanted to eat all the time.

[powerrack]

My diet consist of 3500 calories daily. My last cycle I did TNT250, 1cc per week and went from 135 to 160 after PCT I lost 5 lbs and now I'm 155. I've been training for about 3 years now, last cycle was about 1.5 years ago. Right now like 5 weeks into current cycle I haven't gained a pound, no appetite, nothing. My last cycle I actually wanted to eat all the time.

A cycle gets built from the ground up, so the base is always diet, then training, then rest and otc supps, then AAS. I know you know that, but I guess people are concerned with your stats you might not be doing the first few steps in the best way to reach your goals or take advantage of an AAS cycle.

Post a typical day or two of eating for yourself, and maybe your current training routine. I'm sure we can help you out and you'll be taking full advantage of the gear your using then.

Trust me I've gotten a lot of help on this board from people, a lot of trianing info, nutrition and then supps.

[kloan]

Either that or the gear sucks... there always is that possibility still. :)

[ironwill]

you guys forgot one more factor to add in the equation.....hes only 4 foot 9 inches tall......
so hes pretty husky imo......

[O-Train]

you guys forgot one more factor to add in the equation.....hes only 4 foot 9 inches tall......
so hes pretty husky imo......

Lol, he's 5'11''.

[ironwill]

d'oh......;)......
its jkurz.....

[wolverine]

Ha....ha!! funny Willy

[420]

My first cycle ever was Cytex Deca at 450mg weekly. I definately made progress. Diet and Training are key. If you think the gear is the problem, try keeping a log of your training and diet. I guarantee you`re slipping somewhere.

[collin]

Try to get some good quality pics. We'll also try to get some legit cytex pics and compare. Maybe we can add it to our fake gear collection pics.
that would piss me off

[Perseverance]

I've ran Test only as welll as Test / Deca cycles that were Cytex bottled several times, never had any problems with that brand in terms of legitimacy? How much Test E are you running ?

[vanskelig]

wow wow wow!!!!!

i just found thread and find it amuzing that at 70kg and almost 2 meters you choose to do steroids. i never hear of such thing!

I call that abuse.

[juced_porkchop]

obviosly gear isnot the issue with those stats.

wonder if he will even obhter posting now