its that time again !!!!!!!!!

[Big D]

My winter bulking cycle
any advice is greatly appreciated
so i was thinking

1-6 dbol 50mg/day
1-14 test E 1g/week
1-14 deca or eq 600-800mg/week
14-17 test prop 100mg EOD

.5 liquidex EOD if needed
and nolvadex on hand if needed.

[theslime]

Looks solid to me. If you go with deca at 800 mg per wk though have caber on hand, it did help me.

[JonnyO]

Whats your stats and previous cycle? Looks pretty high to me, but then again I dont know what your other cycles looked like.

[germanbeast]

I would kick out the dbols! You don't need them, even not as kick starter!

[Gib]

Wow thats a lot of gear. How long have you been using for??

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Stats??

[Big D]

i've been using for 4 years,
i'm 6 feet 245 pounds
13 % bf

I know the dosage is abit steep,
the thing is I use to work out wiht some big guys and they used alot of gear at high dosages, so when i firts started using gear i started at high dosages.
now i'm affraid if i cut down abit i wont get good results,

[MuSuLPhReAk]

IMO, drop the dosage a little and go for a longer run. I get my best gains week 15-20. Especially on EQ.

[Big D]

sounds good bro thanks

how about
test e - 750mg/week
eq - 400mg/week

think i should add deca with that 400mg/week?

run that for 20 weeks

[tony_canuck]

i wouldn't add deca with it, but I agree that longer runs, for me anyways, the gains were better

[Mr.Freeze]

go with 600mg. EQ/week with your test E. and your Prop. and you should be happy with the result:)

[MuSuLPhReAk]

:)

[Big D]

that sounds like a plan, and i'll add some tren A at the end,
thanks for the advice guys.

[bigdaddydrew123]

IMO, drop the dosage a little and go for a longer run. I get my best gains week 15-20. Especially on EQ.
i agree on this longer cycles seem to give more maintaINABLE GAINS for me anyways

[Big D]

i agree on this longer cycles seem to give more maintaINABLE GAINS for me anyways

I totally agree, usualy at the end of my 12 week cycles is when I notice the best results, this time i'll run it for 15 weeks.

[Big D]

eq 600
test e 750mg (maybe front load or add some dbol at the beginning).


I usually run tren at the end but that cycle the way it is should give you nice results. Around week 14-15 on, you should see a very nice improvement in your physique if you are eating clean and training consistant.


what do you mean by front load ?

[Link]

Front loading is when you have higher doses during the beginning of your cycle first weeks and lowering the dose as the cycle goes on. Although people tend to believe front loading does not work, I personally am Indifferent as I havent done a cycle yet, still doing my research.

[savage]

The only thing I question is using DBOL at that dose....I know from experiences with those I have helped train, and my own past experiences, I found I had great gains with just 20mgs a day..but different body types, different receptors etc...

You had also mentioned that you weren't sure if a lower dose would work for you...try it out, you might surprise yourself. Many folks I know have used moderate doses 750mgs a week max of TEST, with just DBOL and had awesome gains...same with DECA at 600mgs a week for 16 weeks plus 20mgs DBOL week 1 to 4 and week 12 -16. IMHO

[Gib]

I personally would avoid the dbol altogether. The test and all the others wil give youplenty of gains and the liver stress isnt worth it IMO.

Of course, the safest thing of all is for Big D to send me his gear and i can personally test if for him, then get back to you and let you know if it would have worked for you.

Let me know if you want to go that route, D. I guess i can be a really nice guy and help you out.

[Big D]

I personally would avoid the dbol altogether. The test and all the others wil give youplenty of gains and the liver stress isnt worth it IMO.

Of course, the safest thing of all is for Big D to send me his gear and i can personally test if for him, then get back to you and let you know if it would have worked for you.

Let me know if you want to go that route, D. I guess i can be a really nice guy and help you out.


hahah , thats about the nicest thing anyone has ever ofered to do for me :D

[Big D]

i'll try to front load with some test prop if i can handle all the injections
that way i can avoid the dbol.