A letter from Health Canada

[tiramisu]

... apparently a company in china sent me unmarked vials found to contain somatropin

referred to the Collector with the recommendation to REFUSE ENTRY to the item noted herein

Violates C.01.045 Importation of a prescription (Schedule F) drug by a person other than a practitioner, registered pharmacist or foreign resident visiting Canada.

... personally signed by the inspector.

I assume these get filed. Should I expect further action?

[deleteduser0001]

you should expect your name and address to be flagged. I had this happen 6 years ago, I get searched upon reentry of the country every single time I travel.

[Andre]

You will be entered into Customs Canada's database... expect to be screened whenever you travel back into Canada from any foreign country including the US... be very cautious of what you bring back with you... not the end of the world, just something to be aware of...

[punkrock]

I got one of those as well and haven't heard anything of it since that letter back in may.

[greekgod]

I've had a couple of those along with plenty of seizures and i never have problems at the airport or with any of my other parcels.

[Mr Ontario]

You never learn do ya :)


... apparently a company in china sent me unmarked vials found to contain somatropin

referred to the Collector with the recommendation to REFUSE ENTRY to the item noted herein

Violates C.01.045 Importation of a prescription (Schedule F) drug by a person other than a practitioner, registered pharmacist or foreign resident visiting Canada.

... personally signed by the inspector.

I assume these get filed. Should I expect further action?

[Big D]

You never learn do ya :)

LOL time to make your own HGH

[hyperlite32]

LOL time to make your own HGH

If only...

You can always spend the extra $ and go DOM.

[Drummer]

you have been flagged. Expect every international package to get opened and well searched for anything going to you at that address..

~D~

[LIVEHARD]

You will be entered into Customs Canada's database... expect to be screened whenever you travel back into Canada from any foreign country including the US... be very cautious of what you bring back with you... not the end of the world, just something to be aware of...

X2 yep 100 %

[Andre]

X2 yep 100 %

The more jacked you look, the more likely you are to get hasseled... :mock

[tiramisu]

you have been flagged. Expect every international package to get opened and well searched for anything going to you at that address..

~D~


Interesting, this kind of assumes that they scan all packages and compare addresses against their database.

While it's likely the case that suspicious packages from china would receive this type of examination I can't imagine that customs scans/enters every address into their system the volume is just too large. Vials shipped from asia pacific are definitely off my christmas list howerver.

I'm curious about customs returing to canada as well. I generally fly home and have found returning customls for business travellers to be pretty simple.
That said I generally travel with a single carry on and nothing to declare.

[faller]

Two sezure's back to back here, i no longer use my home address. I'm also seriously thinking about going dom. Just hard to give up a tryed and true you know?

[greekgod]

I order stuff off ebay all the time and I rarely have anything get searched coming into Canada. For this reason, I think that customs rarely flags anyones address.

[pw154]

I got a letter from Health Canada after some IGF-1 I ordered got seized... this was 3-4 years ago. I've ordered more goodies since then to the same name/address and haven't had another seizure or letter. I also haven't been searched upon re-entry to Canada. Maybe I just got lucky?

[LIVEHARD]

Two sezure's back to back here, i no longer use my home address. I'm also seriously thinking about going dom. Just hard to give up a tryed and true you know?

Smart

[LIVEHARD]

I order stuff off ebay all the time and I rarely have anything get searched coming into Canada. For this reason, I think that customs rarely flags anyones address.


I got a letter from Health Canada after some IGF-1 I ordered got seized... this was 3-4 years ago. I've ordered more goodies since then to the same name/address and haven't had another seizure or letter. I also haven't been searched upon re-entry to Canada. Maybe I just got lucky?

Not so smart

[LIVEHARD]

Interesting, this kind of assumes that they scan all packages and compare addresses against their database.

While it's likely the case that suspicious packages from china would receive this type of examination I can't imagine that customs scans/enters every address into their system the volume is just too large. Vials shipped from asia pacific are definitely off my christmas list howerver.

I'm curious about customs returing to canada as well. I generally fly home and have found returning customls for business travellers to be pretty simple.
That said I generally travel with a single carry on and nothing to declare.

If you :pb eventually you will get bit.

Play safe ultimately its your call and freedom you F'k with

[deleteduser0001]

While it's likely the case that suspicious packages from china would receive this type of examination I can't imagine that customs scans/enters every address into their system the volume is just too large. Vials shipped from asia pacific are definitely off my christmas list howerver.



It's automatically done by their sorting machines, you don't think people read all their addresses do you?

[Benny62]

Health Canada still allows people to buy cigarettes..... just wipe your bum with the letter and send it back.

[cdnsoldier]

It's automatically done by their sorting machines, you don't think people read all their addresses do you?



Are you kidding me? It's "automatically" done? How?

Do you know how many packages they get at any one of the 4 hubs form China per day? Do you realize what numbers we are talking about here?

Do you know every single package (light packet or small package as defined by Customs) HAS to have a red stamp on it indictating that it was looked at by an inspector? Do you know what the internal goal of stamped packages is? 80%. Do you know what it actually is? Less than 50%. Hasn't changed in 5 years.


Some of you guys say shit just to say it. This thread is 90% garbage and 10% reality.


PS. Don't order April-Sept. Trust me.

[cdnsoldier]

Interesting, this kind of assumes that they scan all packages and compare addresses against their database.

While it's likely the case that suspicious packages from china would receive this type of examination I can't imagine that customs scans/enters every address into their system the volume is just too large. Vials shipped from asia pacific are definitely off my christmas list howerver.

I'm curious about customs returing to canada as well. I generally fly home and have found returning customls for business travellers to be pretty simple.
That said I generally travel with a single carry on and nothing to declare.



They don't. Don't listen to what anybody tells you. Packages are eyed.They know the players. They know the game. Don't presume they don't. Any shift at any time gets a garbage bin of roids. 7 days a week. Every shift. A lot get nabbed. China is a no go zone.

[greekgod]

Not so smart

Trust me...I only order dom now. It is not worth losing money over seized stuff or having to live with the fear of being arrested. I was just making the point that not everyone gets flagged.

[deleteduser0001]

ever seen a sorting plant mr knowitall? a flagged package is automatically sent to a person to be looked at. Whether it be country of origion or your name or your address, the system flags it and your pack is brushed out of line.

you need to lower your tren dose and be a little more hospitable to the members on here.


Are you kidding me? It's "automatically" done? How?

Do you know how many packages they get at any one of the 4 hubs form China per day? Do you realize what numbers we are talking about here?

Do you know every single package (light packet or small package as defined by Customs) HAS to have a red stamp on it indictating that it was looked at by an inspector? Do you know what the internal goal of stamped packages is? 80%. Do you know what it actually is? Less than 50%. Hasn't changed in 5 years.


Some of you guys say shit just to say it. This thread is 90% garbage and 10% reality.


PS. Don't order April-Sept. Trust me.

[deleteduser0001]

They don't. Don't listen to what anybody tells you. Packages are eyed.They know the players. They know the game. Don't presume they don't. Any shift at any time gets a garbage bin of roids. 7 days a week. Every shift. A lot get nabbed. China is a no go zone.

EVERYONE LISTEN UP

ONLY LISTEN TO THIS USER, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS ALL OF LIFES SECRETS AND IS WILLING TO SHARE IF YOU IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE.

[cdnsoldier]

ever seen a sorting plant mr knowitall? a flagged package is automatically sent to a person to be looked at. Whether it be country of origion or your name or your address, the system flags it and your pack is brushed out of line.

you need to lower your tren dose and be a little more hospitable to the members on here.

Sorting plant? You mean like a fish sorting plant? Yeah I seen a few.

But if you did mean a customs office, yeah I seen that too. Many, many times. In fact too many times because my chick hates driving.
I think you watched that 20/20 special on Chicago customs and presumes ours is set up in the same manner (by the way that "scanner" was experimental and never implemented, just a fyi).

You are totally 100% clueless about how customs works . Why you insist on making these claims like you actually order overseas is beyond me.
But I can tell you without a shred of doubt that what you said is utter nonsense and it's something you yourself know is made up bs.

[cdnsoldier]

EVERYONE LISTEN UP

ONLY LISTEN TO THIS USER, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS ALL OF LIFES SECRETS AND IS WILLING TO SHARE IF YOU IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE.

Do I have a fiancee who works as a supervisor in Customs (Toronto Hub just in case you make extra money for that info.)? Yes.
Do I know everything? No.

But when you actually start using or ordering something overseas then you can talk. Until then I fail to see why you even post stuff you know you have no experience with. Do you realy believe that every package that enters customs is compared to a database? If you do I have a nice bridge for sale.

Good day to you mate. Have fun at the sorting plant. :popc

[pseclint]

Do I have a fiancee who works as a supervisor in Customs (Toronto Hub just in case you make extra money for that info.)? Yes.
Do I know everything? No.

But when you actually start using or ordering something overseas then you can talk. Until then I fail to see why you even post stuff you know you have no experience with. Do you realy believe that every package that enters customs is compared to a database? If you do I have a nice bridge for sale.

Good day to you mate. Have fun at the sorting plant. :popc

pwned

[tex]

pwned x2 with an !

[faller]

pwned!!?? Oh ****ing great, BB.com all over again.. :(

[deleteduser0001]

Do I have a fiancee who works as a supervisor in Customs (Toronto Hub just in case you make extra money for that info.)? Yes.
Do I know everything? No.

But when you actually start using or ordering something overseas then you can talk. Until then I fail to see why you even post stuff you know you have no experience with. Do you realy believe that every package that enters customs is compared to a database? If you do I have a nice bridge for sale.

Good day to you mate. Have fun at the sorting plant. :popc

I have a brother who works at the Calgary customs. Maybe they know each other or maybe your fiance is fictional?

I wish this board had an ignore function.

[waderow]

cdn soldier, instead of flaming, why not tell us the intricacies of customs???

If you have all the details, lets hear em?

I would love to know more

[cdnsoldier]

I have a brother who works at the Calgary customs. Maybe they know each other or maybe your fiance is fictional?

I wish this board had an ignore function.

Ohhh you do? So they opened a new mail hub in Calgary? Manned by your "brother" by himself? Is his name John Rambo? Nice try though. Maybe you should stick to fishing stories.

[tex]

I wish this board had an ignore function. you're in luck!!!

[cdnsoldier]

cdn soldier, instead of flaming, why not tell us the intricacies of customs???

If you have all the details, lets hear em?

I would love to know more


Don't get on your high horse Mr. "I don't flame". I am not flaming. This jerk off goes arond posting fake information and shit he has no clue about. He makes it sound like he actually knows shit when he doesn't. He is as shady as they come and I will leave it at that.

When someone comes on here and posts misinformation you are probably the first to add a snide remark or get your high school chums on it. I will continue to call out this fool because the LAST thing we need is posers pretending like they know something when they don't. If he had personal experience I would say fine. But he doesn't. He's talking about stuff he never does or has experience on. Ask him when was the last time he ordered international? Or last time he used anything at all? His brother at Calgary remark is just complete shit. There isn't even a hub in Calgary. Think about why this guy wants to hang around a board all day fishing for info. when he doesn't even lift.


If you want specifics about Customs PM me and I will help to the best of my abilities and I can only help with Toronto hub. They do things different in Vancouver and God Bless you if your mail comes through Montreal (high success rate).

What I am saying is customs doesn't need to "scan" anything. I said they know the players, they know the game. China is a no go for more reasons than steroids. They are looking for a 1000 different things with Chinese packs. Not just steroids. Tiger balls, grounded shark fins, live animals, fake designer goods, fake meds, fake ipods, fake apple computers, stolen microchips, a million illegal "medical" products etc etc. As more eyes are on China , less eyes are "elsewhere". So use the odds.


If you take that as a flame so be it. Spreading fake information when you KNOW it's fake is just plain ****ed. At least if you order and have experience is one thing but from a guy who doesn't order and is clueless? Get lost....

[Beachmuscle]

Love your posts CNDSOLDIER. :beer

[deleteduser0001]

don't worry about it, no more feeding the trolls

[tiramisu]

There is no mail hub in calgary.
Walkingupstairs probably needs a little time out. This isn't getbig or bb.com.

I also appreciate cdnsoldier's willingness to share.
I think it's good to understand the process as well as the potential risks.


This will probably offend the majority of you but there are days when I think the age of majority should be raised to at least 30.

[punkrock]

The only hub i've had to deal with has been the Winnepeg one. I've gotten two damn letters from there. :mad:

One several sites I've read that asia packages are check more often because of the differences in laws.

If I ever do try again it would be from a country in europe possibly. My pack from mexico got stopped, but I'm sure it was because my package from asia before it got caught.

*this is all personal expierience and read knowledge, if I'm wrong please let me know in a courtious mannor. (i'm not trying to be a dick to cndsoldier, alot of his info has been excellent and consistent with what i've read elsewhere.*

[deleteduser0001]

There is no mail hub in calgary.
Walkingupstairs probably needs a little time out. This isn't getbig or bb.com.

I also appreciate cdnsoldier's willingness to share.
I think it's good to understand the process as well as the potential risks.


This will probably offend the majority of you but there are days when I think the age of majority should be raised to at least 30.

I didn't say hub. I didn't even say mail. I said customs.

yikes.

[kloan]

Don't they have machines/scanners that scan every shipping label/address?

I've watched How It's Made quite a few times now, and one time they showed 'mail' (or was it How They Do That?). Anyway, there are large machines with scanners that scan the addresses and sort the mail to the relevant address areas. Then it's eventually manually sorted.

BUT, that's Canada Post.

It's probably a much different system in Customs before it even gets to Canada Post. So perhaps that's why some people thought that if your address is 'flagged', that a package could somehow be scanned/flagged and compared to a database of flagged addresses and then set aside by the system for manual inspection. This would only happen if Canada Customs has the same sorting facilities as Canada Post does. I'm assuming...

[juggybuggy]

Don't they have machines/scanners that scan every shipping label/address?

I've watched How It's Made quite a few times now, and one time they showed 'mail' (or was it How They Do That?). Anyway, there are large machines with scanners that scan the addresses and sort the mail to the relevant address areas. Then it's eventually manually sorted.

BUT, that's Canada Post.

It's probably a much different system in Customs before it even gets to Canada Post. So perhaps that's why some people thought that if your address is 'flagged', that a package could somehow be scanned/flagged and compared to a database of flagged addresses and then set aside by the system for manual inspection. This would only happen if Canada Customs has the same sorting facilities as Canada Post does. I'm assuming...

I saw that show as well, I am 99% positve that the sorting machines used by Canada Post only sort by postal code. They do not have the capabilities to scan the entire address electronically, only the postal code.
Once they are sorted by postal code, all other sorting is done by hand.

I am no expert, but this is how I understand it to be.

[kloan]

^^ah, yeah i couldn't remember the exact way it worked.. postal code makes sense.

[tiramisu]

Is it theoretically possible for customs to scan and sort every piece of international mail and parcels prior to releasing them to canada post? Yup. Do they? Nope.

Cost (imagine implementing the canadian postal system twice), Delays, Privacy. I can imagine the list of political issues would be high as would the staff required to do this in a timely fashion (people demand their mail fast).

If canadian border services worked with canada post more effectively down stream this could occur but that probably takes a police order and or a desire to take action. It's likely that this is the easy way of building up a case against importers that are regularily bringing in contraband. (this is supposition)

[macka]

The only way CBSA would get a mandate to search every piece of international mail is if the fascists or commies came to power. If we get Layton or Ignatiev as PM then we are pretty much ****ed.

[Drummer]

Ill tell you all right now that not everything always gets checked, but if you have been flagged, your way more unlikely to get anything through to that name and address unchecked. Once i got some powders stopped, after that, everything i got was opened, searched and tagged with BS duties, overvalued etc on things like electronics from ebay. Canada customs are not 'loose' and all the international shippers know this. Many have re-send policies BUT do not honour them for Canada. This is all fact.

~D~

[rob66679]

The only way CBSA would get a mandate to search every piece of international mail is if the fascists or commies came to power. If we get Layton or Ignatiev as PM then we are pretty much ****ed.

^^^^^^^^
???????????

We won't be any more ****ed than we are now with Mr. Harper trying to pass legislation that allows police to monitor personal computers without warrants. Sounds like Big Brother watching to me.
This governments been up peoples asses like no other in quite a while. Harper with a majority = pretty much ****ed.

[kloan]

....

[macka]

^^^^^^^^
???????????

We won't be any more ****ed than we are now with Mr. Harper trying to pass legislation that allows police to monitor personal computers without warrants. Sounds like Big Brother watching to me.
This governments been up peoples asses like no other in quite a while. Harper with a majority = pretty much ****ed.

If you think that Harper was a Presidential lapdog, wait for Ignatiev, he's lived there for 20+ years, walks talks and thinks liberal American. Layton is a red pube away from being communist.

[Knuckles28]

If you think that Harper was a Presidential lapdog, wait for Ignatiev, he's lived there for 20+ years, walks talks and thinks liberal American. Layton is a red pube away from being communist.

What he said ^^

[physique]

i just got one of these aswell but for importing yohimbe. i know the address i used is ****ed for any other usage. unless its legal that is

[rob66679]

If you think that Harper was a Presidential lapdog, wait for Ignatiev, he's lived there for 20+ years, walks talks and thinks liberal American. Layton is a red pube away from being communist.

Actually it was a liberal that told Bush to **** off and go to Iraq by himself, when Harper was in favor of going in, and the NDP would legalize pot, which sounds kind of odd for a party that would impose a communist police state.

If you don't give a shit about your rights to privacy, and want to turn Canada into Texas North, then I guess Harpers your man.

[RagingRandy]

I have had a letter and have had international packages arrive following the letter. I travel internationally 4 times a year and never been checked since the letter.

YMMV

[cdnsoldier]

I have had a letter and have had international packages arrive following the letter. I travel internationally 4 times a year and never been checked since the letter.

YMMV

When you enter the country after leaving (i.e returning to Canada) the guy at customs is running a CPIC (sometimes, sometimes they run jack and only pretend to) . If you received a letter for postal mail it's a seperate database (by the way it's purged everfy x amount of years- the mail one not real customs).


The one they have at real customs is a CPIC plus any notes if you were caught trying to evade duties or importing illegal goods. Totally seperate from the mail database (i.e "the letter"). If you ever received a "yellow" form while crossing you are on that database and might get pulled for secondary. If CPIC shows drug convictions you'll probably get pulled.

[RagingRandy]

^^^^^ Appreciate the info.

[CanadianIron]

I dont know if this is useful information or not, but I had a friend that worked at the canadian customs at the commercial crossing here in Vancouver and when private companies (ups, fedex) would come through, he would go out and get into the truck and grab a few items at random and bring them inside to be checked, they only checked a handful of packages out of a truckful.

I should also note that I just had a shipment confiscated with my name on it (im a fool) and I cross the border on a weekly basis and havent been searched... *fingers crossed*... if they up and decided to flag me one of the guys at customs would likely tell me because they all know me... trying to get gear is proving to be a bitch... you guys make it sounds like domestic sources are easy to find without shaking hands with a guy that is likely to shoot you...

[cdnsoldier]

I dont know if this is useful information or not, but I had a friend that worked at the canadian customs at the commercial crossing here in Vancouver and when private companies (ups, fedex) would come through, he would go out and get into the truck and grab a few items at random and bring them inside to be checked, they only checked a handful of packages out of a truckful.

I should also note that I just had a shipment confiscated with my name on it (im a fool) and I cross the border on a weekly basis and havent been searched... *fingers crossed*... if they up and decided to flag me one of the guys at customs would likely tell me because they all know me... trying to get gear is proving to be a bitch... you guys make it sounds like domestic sources are easy to find without shaking hands with a guy that is likely to shoot you...




Hmmm...That doesn't sound right at all. UPS, FEDEX etc. are usually 'prechecked' by their own employees and all suspicious packs are flagged for govt. customs to check. In Toronto they work hand and hand very effciently and it's pretty much a no no to send UPS, Fedex (however not all companies are "checked" equally since for a certain company customs is just a formality, most guys know which company I am talking about).

UPS,Fedex air. etc. are checked , I would estimate , 50% better than good ol' fashioned mail.

I don't know, it could be different in Vancouver but that port is known to be hard ass... unless you aren't ****** and that's a whole different story.

[CanadianIron]

Hmmm...That doesn't sound right at all. UPS, FEDEX etc. are usually 'prechecked' by their own employees and all suspicious packs are flagged for govt. customs to check. In Toronto they work hand and hand very effciently and it's pretty much a no no to send UPS, Fedex (however not all companies are "checked" equally since for a certain company customs is just a formality, most guys know which company I am talking about).

UPS,Fedex air. etc. are checked , I would estimate , 50% better than good ol' fashioned mail.

I don't know, it could be different in Vancouver but that port is known to be hard ass... unless you aren't talking air and that's a whole different story.


Im talking ground shipments USA > Canada.

[cdnsoldier]

Im talking*********USA > Canada.

Yeah I thought so. But that's the hole we don't want plugged yet. Wink. Wink.

[YYZgeddylee]

great thread.
facts and fiction all in one.

To the OP. Dont sweat it bro,
its just a piece of paper.

[deletedandgone]

Receiving mail the safe way:
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1103

In summary, looks like people get a warning letter and get flagged. This is realistic, the thread that I linked scares the shit out of me. But good to know nevertheless.

[Redz]

Many have re-send policies BUT do not honour them for Canada. This is all fact.
I have never had any issues with international sources re-sending even without a seizure letter, 3 vials of tren, nolva,clomid, tons of test and more were re-sent some of the items were even re-sent again. I did eventually receive a seizure letter 8 months after the fact for the clomid. I have never had any issues at any air port or crossing the border, I was not "flagged".

In summary, looks like people get a warning letter and get flagged. This is realistic, the thread that I linked scares the shit out of me. But good to know nevertheless.
They are not flagging people bringing in small amounts of steroids.

[deletedandgone]

They are not flagging people bringing in small amounts of steroids.

I already asked this in the other thread, but here's a hypothetical scenario. Clen is not a controlled substance, it is not listed in any of the schedules, but it does need a prescription, i.e. illegal to traffic (which includes administering the drug). So, what is the maximum legal penalty if customs find clen for personal use mailed from overseas?

[guest]

upon returning to Canada from vacation last year I was questioned about a package sent to my address from China 5 years ago containing GH.
I had been in and out of the country many times in that period and I always get searched. always. I am now on a fire department and still get searched while wearing department attire.

[deletedandgone]

upon returning to Canada from vacation last year I was questioned about a package sent to my address from China 5 years ago containing GH.

What did you tell them? What is a good reply in that case? Just say that you never received it or say that it was a mistake or confess?

[guest]

What did you tell them? What is a good reply in that case? Just say that you never received it or say that it was a mistake or confess?

i told them the truth;) i didn't know anything about such a package. i believe my exact words were "weird, i have no idea what that's about".

** i should clarify that the package was apparently seized, although i did not receive a letter.

[grindtight]

LOL time to make your own HGH

really that possible???

[grindtight]

I order stuff off ebay all the time and I rarely have anything get searched coming into Canada. For this reason, I think that customs rarely flags anyones address.

ebayyyyyy lol u seriuos?

[jamex]

ebayyyyyy lol u seriuos?

i don't think hes's talking about ordering gear from ebay. just ebay shipments in general :P

i hope...lol

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I would think it irresponsible for customs not to have a list of flagged addy's, names, etc.

A program like that is really simple to write and set up criteria for automatic flags to come up when they deem it worth going after someone or investigating further.

Solution to all the problems. Don't import stuff in the country that you do not have a script for. It's illegal to do and can land you and a heap of trouble. Of course there is a chance you won't get caught and you can receive it without a script. But if you want there to be a 0% chance of not getting caught, then just don't do it.

I know it's not what a lot of you want to hear but it is the truth. There have been controlled deliveries in Canada, there have been arrests for importing. You're worst nightmare is if they charge you under both the Customs Act and The Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.

[wolverine]

upon returning to Canada from vacation last year I was questioned about a package sent to my address from China 5 years ago containing GH.
I had been in and out of the country many times in that period and I always get searched. always. I am now on a fire department and still get searched while wearing department attire.

Ya they are on to you Fire guy's now, they know you guys are all juice monkeys, this is just jokes bro, The garb has got me out of alot of shit in the past!

[guest]

Ya they are on to you Fire guy's now, they know you guys are all juice monkeys, this is just jokes bro, The garb has got me out of alot of shit in the past!

:D

[evoke]

I get searched every time I entered Canada, since I was 12.
Such an annoying waste of time. :(

[cog]

upon returning to Canada from vacation last year I was questioned about a package sent to my address from China 5 years ago containing GH.
I had been in and out of the country many times in that period and I always get searched. always. I am now on a fire department and still get searched while wearing department attire.

Somebody must have known you were out of the country and decided to use your place as a drop.

[rubarb]

Funny I seen this post... I left 2 weeks ago to go to Florida on a business trip and the ass hole behind the copunter asked "So Mr.****,are you on the juice"? I laughed and said no and then asked me if I am heading to the US for a BBing competition I said no then next thing I know this big bald Fuker comes out grabs me by the arm and drags me into this dumb ass room with table and 3 chairs and I'm bared in there by myself for almost a min they bring in my lougauge bag demand me to open it and searched it for gear... WTF? Sure they even ripped the tops off my Calvin Cline colunge bottles and sniffed it...
While they had me remove everything from my bags including carry on there was no speek just dead silence for about 15 mins... When I got out of the room my boss from work looked at me as if ready to kill I told him what I knew and he said what a bunch of ass holes, and he did say they can do this shit if they like because I am entering their country...
I have never purchased or tried to purchase any illegal subs out side of canada

[tony_canuck]

wow that is fukkd up! what a bunch of morons... really, they have nothing better to look for? sorry to hear that...

[deletedandgone]

well there you go folks: if you want to stay legal, then stay away from healthy physical exercise, pick up smoking, start drinking yourself into a coma every Friday night, and you'll never have to worry about any legal problems.

How do BB pros stay legal then? Do they really have scripts for every single vitamin S that they took? I heard Ronnie Coleman was accused once of taking Winstrol, which was a hilarious article. Essentially one guy "suspected that Ronnie Coleman was on Winstrol". As if that's not clear from looking at the guy.

Yeah, sorry to hear all these stories...

[rob66679]

Funny I seen this post... I left 2 weeks ago to go to Florida on a business trip and the ass hole behind the copunter asked "So Mr.****,are you on the juice"? I laughed and said no and then asked me if I am heading to the US for a BBing competition I said no then next thing I know this big bald Fuker comes out grabs me by the arm and drags me into this dumb ass room with table and 3 chairs and I'm bared in there by myself for almost a min they bring in my lougauge bag demand me to open it and searched it for gear... WTF? Sure they even ripped the tops off my Calvin Cline colunge bottles and sniffed it...
While they had me remove everything from my bags including carry on there was no speek just dead silence for about 15 mins... When I got out of the room my boss from work looked at me as if ready to kill I told him what I knew and he said what a bunch of ass holes, and he did say they can do this shit if they like because I am entering their country...
I have never purchased or tried to purchase any illegal subs out side of canada


So what can we learn from this boys and girls? lol.

Interpol and Canada/US share information, and just because you've never been charged doesn't mean they don't have a file on ya.
If the RCMP have information on you, so does US border security. Guaranteed.

[rubarb]

So what can we learn from this boys and girls? lol.

Interpol and Canada/US share information, and just because you've never been charged doesn't mean they don't have a file on ya.
If the RCMP have information on you, so does US border security. Guaranteed.


I have never been in trouble with the law for anything at all, only when some Bitch told my dad not to expect me home one night for beating the piss out of her son, which ended up in several follow ups for moths after but either than that this was onl contact with the law i ever had...

I wonder if they have ever asked a 400lb man. Well Mr. green Are you carrying any Cnd beef burgers under those Skin folds? Then take him out back into a room And do a body search? Well sir we would not want you to be carrying Foreign beef into the country to contaminate our livestock...
LOL!

Then again its their country so I guess they can say and do what they like...

[rob66679]

I have never been in trouble with the law for anything at all, only when some Bitch told my dad not to expect me home one night for beating the piss out of her son, which ended up in several follow ups for moths after but either than that this was onl contact with the law i ever had...

I wonder if they have ever asked a 400lb man. Well Mr. green Are you carrying any Cnd beef burgers under those Skin folds? Then take him out back into a room And do a body search? Well sir we would not want you to be carrying Foreign beef into the country to contaminate our livestock...
LOL!

Then again its their country so I guess they can say and do what they like...

Just because you've never seen it doesn't mean the file on you doesn't exist.

I knew of a guy who had never been even charged with anything at the time, although he was involved with some "creative" ways of making some extra bucks.
He flew to Florida, and was denied entry at customs. They don't have to be able to prove anything to deny entry, and it also went to prove that information is obviously shared between the US and Canadian LE.
It is a funny thing though, I know guys with long records including drug charges who got in, and some with no convictions who were denied.
Go figure lol.

[musclemd]

I've had a couple of those along with plenty of seizures and i never have problems at the airport or with any of my other parcels.

I've had one letter - no problem getting back when abroad.
After the first letter- no subsequent letters.
I hate to waste $$

[musclemd]

I have never had any issues with international sources re-sending even without a seizure letter, 3 vials of tren, nolva,clomid, tons of test and more were re-sent some of the items were even re-sent again. I did eventually receive a seizure letter 8 months after the fact for the clomid. I have never had any issues at any air port or crossing the border, I was not "flagged".

They are not flagging people bringing in small amounts of steroids.

They also may take into consideration the amount. Maybe a small amount is often ignored.

[musclemd]

i just got one of these aswell but for importing yohimbe. i know the address i used is ****ed for any other usage. unless its legal that is

After I got a letter I used a P.O. box for a while.
Then started using my own address again and stuff got through.
Go figure.

[vakker]

Might want to read the rules before you continue postings

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I edited some of your posts. Please read the rules as we do things a bit different here. Stay away from source talk and ug lab talk on the site.