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canadianmuscle0803
17-08-2009, 03:11 PM
A man in New Zealand who cooked his pet dog will not be charged as it is legal to do so.
Paea Taufu, a Tongan-born man living in Auckland New Zealand was in the process of roasting his pitbull terrier-cross in a traditional Umu pit-barbecue when animal protection inspectors arrived to investigate.
They were called by a concerned member of the public on Sunday but arrived too late for the animal.
Dog meat is considered an acceptable fare in Tonga. "Dog, horse, we eat it in Tonga. It's good food for us," said Lupi Taufu, Paea's wife.
Under New Zealand's Animal Welfare Act it is legal to kill a dog providing the slaughter is done quickly and painlessly.
But the local Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) has criticised the actions. "I find it quite disturbing that someone would kill a pet and then eat it. I'm not okay with that but unfortunately the law allows you to do it," SPCA Inspector Derek Haddy told reporters.
Taufu was not aware that he was doing something uncommon in New Zealand but indicated he would not kill another dog to avoid offending anyone in the future.


http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149203399

this is murder in my OPINION.. and should be charged the same way.. what a sick individual.. im a PIT PULL lover/owner and this makes me cringe..

Ritch
17-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Hopefully Karma finds her way back to this fella and is attacked viciously by a pit bull. Would that make for a hard on story to read in the paper?

L3
17-08-2009, 03:31 PM
for all we know mama Taufu ran out of breast milk and her babies were starving

the-vanilla-gorilla
17-08-2009, 03:48 PM
Hopefully Karma finds her way back to this fella and is attacked viciously by a pit bull. Would that make for a hard on story to read in the paper?

the only thing that would happen then is the dog would be put down and he'd heal

nope they need to not allow this man to ever own any animal again and have some kinda database that is accessed by people when someone is looking for a job or what ever that tells them about this shit!like a backgrounbd check!

a maybe if someone could one night knock him out and tattoo what he did across his forhead so people could spit at him while they pass on the streets!



TVG

guest
17-08-2009, 05:32 PM
i had to put my 13yo AmStaff down last week. i wish i could have put this freak down instead.

the-vanilla-gorilla
17-08-2009, 06:19 PM
i had to put my 13yo AmStaff down last week. i wish i could have put this freak down instead.

sorry to hear about your pooch bro!!


i dread the time for my am staff and its coming soon!


13 yrs is a long life for him!! allthough it's never long enough!


TVG

GYMBRAT
17-08-2009, 06:43 PM
i had to put my 13yo AmStaff down last week. i wish i could have put this freak down instead.

sorry to hear that Banacek!

.....I won't even watch it, just don't have the balls to! Though kind of a hypocrite I guess since I do hunt :(

Big D
17-08-2009, 09:41 PM
yep the guy should do life in jail, I can't stand animal cruelty

fit226
17-08-2009, 10:26 PM
If i came into a lot of money that allowed me to never work again I would dedicate 1 whole year to travelling and shuting down or making the peoples lives miserable that own puppie mills. If any of you have seen how these operate it is absolutely disgusting!!

guest
17-08-2009, 10:37 PM
sorry to hear about your pooch bro!!


i dread the time for my am staff and its coming soon!


13 yrs is a long life for him!! allthough it's never long enough!


TVG

thank you TVG & Gymbrat. it was coming for a while so i had some time to prepare myself.

my best friend has a bulldog, a real cutie, she's a people magnet. last week a native man saw her and was talking to my friend about her and her breed, he mentioned something ignorant about pitt bulls. it had only been a couple of days since i lost my boy, my friend looked at me like 'oh shit, he's gunna lose it'. i didnt say anything but i sure felt like it. i wanted to ask him why he wasnt drunk, he was native wasnt he? perhaps he would have got the point.

BAM
17-08-2009, 10:49 PM
but if it was a cat.. :)

Ritch
17-08-2009, 11:12 PM
but if it was a cat.. :)

Nooooo

L3
17-08-2009, 11:13 PM
^^^ahahahahhaaha

faller
18-08-2009, 08:20 AM
So it's ok to eat chicken, cow, tuna, pig, but not a dog because?????

BAM
18-08-2009, 08:28 AM
I'm constantly tormented by off leash dogs with their irresponsible owners when I'm relaxing by the lakeshore. I'd love to barb-Q one... not sure I'd eat it though.. just barb-q it and then extinguish it with a stream of righteous urine.

countrychic
18-08-2009, 09:37 AM
I'm constantly tormented by off leash dogs with their irresponsible owners when I'm relaxing by the lakeshore. I'd love to barb-Q one... not sure I'd eat it though.. just barb-q it and then extinguish it with a stream of righteous urine.

yikes!! :popc2

countrychic
18-08-2009, 09:38 AM
i had to put my 13yo AmStaff down last week. i wish i could have put this freak down instead.

aww sorry to hear Bana!!


This guy is SICK!! I don't understand how they allow shit like this to happen.

fit226
18-08-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm constantly tormented by off leash dogs with their irresponsible owners when I'm relaxing by the lakeshore. I'd love to barb-Q one... not sure I'd eat it though.. just barb-q it and then extinguish it with a stream of righteous urine.

I am tormented by screaming children in Walmart everytime i go...not that i am gonna smack them up on the side of the head because of it! Its not the dogs fault its the owners...you should BBQ them up.

And its a little different cooking up a dog compared to a chicken or cow...When was the last time you went into a hen house or a field and those animals showed so much affection that it was overwhelming. There is reason dogs are considered 'Mans best friend'

the-vanilla-gorilla
18-08-2009, 03:46 PM
i too have never been able to handle the sound of people whinning or babies crying!

makes me hurt !!!

TVG

Beachmuscle
18-08-2009, 03:57 PM
I have two dogs, cat, fish, bird, etc... lol..

I love my animals, they say dogs are a mans best friend for a reason. I find it sick to even think of eating my loving animals.

But on the other side of the coin, it's in this guys culture. If the animal was put down in a human matter (Ie: not cooked alive, which was obviousely not the case) what can you do. If the animal died with dignity and without pain, no matter how hard it is to believe, he did no wrong.

Hell, look at how cattle or chickens are raised. Yes, the chicken we love soooo much... they stand all day long in a little cage, never recieve a wink of darkness in their short food stuffed hormone ingesting life before they are slaughtered to be packaged for our consumption. Seems pretty damn cruel.

But chickens don't roll over, speak, shake a paw, or defend your home.

Tough call, it makes me sick, but at the same time I believe you have to have tolerance for other peoples way of life.

I've met many people from Tonga. They are hard working, friendly, well rounded people. Their diet is obviousely a little different.

Would I eat my dogs? No. Would I find it sick to find out my neighbor was having a dog roast? Yes... but I'd still chat with him if I knew it was done humanely.

What a ****ed up world.

deleteduser0001
18-08-2009, 04:01 PM
So it's ok to eat chicken, cow, tuna, pig, but not a dog because?????

yeap, easy to judge by western standards but this was not a western culture. Just like we don't like being judged by fundamentalist islamic peoples for our views, we have no right to judge a dog eater.

Ritch
18-08-2009, 04:03 PM
Maybe it`s their way of eating "hot dogs"...

guest
18-08-2009, 07:20 PM
yeap, easy to judge by western standards but this was not a western culture. Just like we don't like being judged by fundamentalist islamic peoples for our views, we have no right to judge a dog eater.

by reason then we have no right to judge cultures which foster child molestation. my right or not, i am judging. i guess when it comes to caring for the welfare of dogs and children i am ignorant.

note* this occurred in NewZealand, not in some obscure New Guinea village.

faller
18-08-2009, 07:51 PM
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note* this occurred in NewZealand, not in some obscure New Guinea village.

So what? It wasn't that long ago Eskimos eat thier dogs when food was scarce, and thats in Canada!! Take a look at the guys name in the article, i don't know if they have aborigines in NewZealand or not, but i suspect that is the case. Different strokes for different folks. Oh, and the SPCA can go **** themselves.. :yeah

melanotan
18-08-2009, 08:28 PM
This is a trippy story but it reminds me of how it is nothing in most parts of the world to eat beef but in the Hindu parts of India such an idea is abominable.
For Hindus the thought of eating beef is in fact worse than the thought of eating dog for most Westerners.

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guest
18-08-2009, 09:59 PM
just when i thought things couldn't get any dumber. lol.

Ritch
19-08-2009, 11:44 PM
This is a trippy story but it reminds me of how it is nothing in most parts of the world to eat beef but in the Hindu parts of India such an idea is abominable.
For Hindus the thought of eating beef is in fact worse than the thought of eating dog for most Westerners.



Don`t they use their hand to wipe their ass in that country? Don`t they have some sacred river in which everybody pisses and shits in, but because of they "special beliefs" they can drink it and be fine? Who gives a **** what they think. They live in total misery.

faller
20-08-2009, 08:08 AM
Don`t they use their hand to wipe their ass in that country? Don`t they have some sacred river in which everybody pisses and shits in, but because of they "special beliefs" they can drink it and be fine? Who gives a **** what they think. They live in total misery.

Lol, you sure you're not from Texas? Maybe we should bomb them and than show them what it's like to live the good life. We'll have them eating steaks and hot dogs in no time. :D

melanotan
20-08-2009, 09:33 AM
Who gives a **** what they think.

Yes, you're right as such logic is equally applicable relative to what you are saying.

INked
20-08-2009, 09:34 AM
the only thing that would happen then is the dog would be put down and he'd heal

nope they need to not allow this man to ever own any animal again and have some kinda database that is accessed by people when someone is looking for a job or what ever that tells them about this shit!like a backgrounbd check!

a maybe if someone could one night knock him out and tattoo what he did across his forhead so people could spit at him while they pass on the streets!



TVG

Both of us here would spit!

INked
20-08-2009, 09:36 AM
Don`t they use their hand to wipe their ass in that country? Don`t they have some sacred river in which everybody pisses and shits in, but because of they "special beliefs" they can drink it and be fine? Who gives a **** what they think. They live in total misery.:friday

the-vanilla-gorilla
20-08-2009, 09:48 AM
:beer




Both of us here would spit!




TVG

waderow
20-08-2009, 10:13 AM
I am tormented by screaming children in Walmart everytime i go...not that i am gonna smack them up on the side of the head because of it! Its not the dogs fault its the owners...you should BBQ them up.

And its a little different cooking up a dog compared to a chicken or cow...When was the last time you went into a hen house or a field and those animals showed so much affection that it was overwhelming. There is reason dogs are considered 'Mans best friend'

good points

Ritch
20-08-2009, 10:26 AM
Yes, you're right as such logic is equally applicable relative to what you are saying.

Don`t overthink this shit... So you agree with them? C`mon dude...

melanotan
20-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Don`t overthink this shit... So you agree with them? C`mon dude...

no, I personally don't agree with the consumption of dogs (particularly in the context of one's pet which just strikes me as nasty) but I don't see any valid moral objections to doing so if done in a humane fashion. Some folks abhor the idea of horse meat being an option (myself included) but in a number of 'civilized' European countries there are in fact butcheries dedicated to such fare.

waderow
20-08-2009, 12:38 PM
no, I personally don't agree with the consumption of dogs (particularly in the context of one's pet which just strikes me as nasty) but I don't see any valid moral objections to doing so if done in a humane fashion. Some folks abhor the idea of horse meat being an option (myself included) but in a number of 'civilized' European countries there are in fact butcheries dedicated to such fare.

if they want to eat dogs in shithole india or tailand etc...

then eat dogs there.

here in NA we have different cultural values, where dogs and cats are considered more family like. It should not be done here, and the newcomers should respect our culture, as we are expected to do when we visit their shithole countries

melanotan
20-08-2009, 12:54 PM
if they want to eat dogs in shithole india or tailand etc...

then eat dogs there.

here in NA we have different cultural values, where dogs and cats are considered more family like. It should not be done here, and the newcomers should respect our culture, as we are expected to do when we visit their shithole countries

when in Rome....

Of course it's not generally culturally acceptable to be using unlicensed and unregulated performance enhancing drugs in most places in the world but people still do.

Ritch
20-08-2009, 04:54 PM
if they want to eat dogs in shithole india or tailand etc...

then eat dogs there.

here in NA we have different cultural values, where dogs and cats are considered more family like. It should not be done here, and the newcomers should respect our culture, as we are expected to do when we visit their shithole countries

The truth! Especially about newcomers arriving here...

faller
22-08-2009, 02:21 AM
when in Rome....

Of course it's not generally culturally acceptable to be using unlicensed and unregulated performance enhancing drugs in most places in the world but people still do.

Green!!!

faller
22-08-2009, 02:42 AM
Some folks abhor the idea of horse meat being an option (myself included) but in a number of 'civilized' European countries there are in fact butcheries dedicated to such fare.

Man we should so invade Texas and make them eat horse meat! Force feed them if we have too! By God they have no right thinking the way they do.

You dog lovers are just not getting it are ya? You're starting to sound pretty American to me, "Think and believe what i believe or go to hell"??? That train of thought has made the US the most hated country in the world. And the ****ing SPCA is now going to be the new world moral police??? And that dosen't give one pause??? Some poor ****ing pigmy is getting shit on because he consider's dog meat in the same context as we consider beef, chicken, tuna?? And he's wrong for thinking that because beef, chicken and tuna don't give you the same affection as a dog??!! Come on guys, i know you can do better than that!

BAM
22-08-2009, 08:06 AM
I am tormented by screaming children in Walmart everytime i go...not that i am gonna smack them up on the side of the head because of it! Its not the dogs fault its the owners...you should BBQ them up.


Domesticated animal does not equal human child. No comparison

That would be like comparing an ant to a dolphin.

waderow
23-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Man we should so invade Texas and make them eat horse meat! Force feed them if we have too! By God they have no right thinking the way they do.

You dog lovers are just not getting it are ya? You're starting to sound pretty American to me, "Think and believe what i believe or go to hell"??? That train of thought has made the US the most hated country in the world. And the ****ing SPCA is now going to be the new world moral police??? And that dosen't give one pause??? Some poor ****ing pigmy is getting shit on because he consider's dog meat in the same context as we consider beef, chicken, tuna?? And he's wrong for thinking that because beef, chicken and tuna don't give you the same affection as a dog??!! Come on guys, i know you can do better than that!


read my last post.

its not that we are right and they are wrong, it is just that regional cultural differences need to be respected.
example: if we go there and start to push our ways in them....and say... eat a chicken on the third full moon of the year in contest of the eight armed elephant gods sacred decree that chickens are sacred that day and can only be eaten my monks who have mutilated their own genitals with a hot poker.... we would maybe get our ****ing heads cut off.
even though it may be a saturday night ritual here in north america to have a bucket of chicken from KFC on the sacred chicken day.... it goes againt their culture. In our culture, dogs and cats are family like

whats wrong with you faller? i thought you were a proponent of traditional culture here.

faller
23-08-2009, 03:09 PM
read my last post.

its not that we are right and they are wrong, it is just that regional cultural differences need to be respected.
example: if we go there and start to push our ways in them....and say... eat a chicken on the third full moon of the year in contest of the eight armed elephant gods sacred decree that chickens are sacred that day and can only be eaten my monks who have mutilated their own genitals with a hot poker.... we would maybe get our ****ing heads cut off.
even though it may be a saturday night ritual here in north america to have a bucket of chicken from KFC on the sacred chicken day.... it goes againt their culture. In our culture, dogs and cats are family like

whats wrong with you faller? i thought you were a proponent of traditional culture here.


Lol, nice!! i am a proponent of traditional culture here. Here being the key word. You and me are saying the same thing, i was referring more to the posts that he should be punished for what he did, thats where i disagree. His cultural beliefs must be respected in his country no matter how vulgure they may seem to us..

_Ragnar_
25-08-2009, 10:29 PM
I am a dog lover, grew up with German Shepherds. But what we call a pet, he might call livestock. Without being submerged in his culture we cant really make a call on this one.

guest
26-08-2009, 04:21 PM
Lol, nice!! i am a proponent of traditional culture here. Here being the key word. You and me are saying the same thing, i was referring more to the posts that he should be punished for what he did, thats where i disagree. His cultural beliefs must be respected in his country no matter how vulgure they may seem to us..

you seem to keep forgetting that this happened in new zealand, a country very comparable to our own. not a remote new guinea jungle.

it sounded to me like your beef was with him being judged by people that may not have an understanding of his culture.

let me put it like this..... a man comes from a culture where child molestation is accepted and promoted(yes, these places exist), he moves to a more 'civilized' country like new zealand. upon his arrival he begins molesting children....would i judge him? yes i would.

BAM
26-08-2009, 04:33 PM
^^ We come a country that promotes same sex marriage (which we as individuals did not get a chance to vote on, it was thrust upon us by the government without a fair poll of the masses) and to some people, that is more offensive than eating dog so really who are we to judge dog eaters?

faller
26-08-2009, 05:02 PM
you seem to keep forgetting that this happened in new zealand, a country very comparable to our own. not a remote new guinea jungle.

it sounded to me like your beef was with him being judged by people that may not have an understanding of his culture.

let me put it like this..... a man comes from a culture where child molestation is accepted and promoted(yes, these places exist), he moves to a more 'civilized' country like new zealand. upon his arrival he begins molesting children....would i judge him? yes i would.


I had to do some searching on the web, and i stand corrected. I thought he was New Zeland born, where as he was actually Tongan-born, south Pacific islands. I thought Tongan was an New Zealand born aboriginal or something.. He moved to New Zealand he must abide by the laws of the land...... Roast the bastard!! :D

guest
26-08-2009, 10:20 PM
^^ We come a country that promotes same sex marriage (which we as individuals did not get a chance to vote on, it was thrust upon us by the government without a fair poll of the masses) and to some people, that is more offensive than eating dog so really who are we to judge dog eaters.

same sex marriage is engaged in by two consenting adults. no animals, children or other entity at a disadvantage are involved in that case.

i grasp what you guys are saying, our beliefs are not the only beliefs and in some cases they are certainly not the most righteous. i get the debate. what i am judging is a situation where someone or something in a weaker position is exploited unnecessarily. not every culture in the world shares this view but most that are civilized do.

FYI you can buy puppies at the market in mainland China for culinary purposes. i have many Chinese friends, would i judge them if they ate a puppy there? .....i dunno, i would definitely be disturbed by it. would i judge them if they ate their "pet pitbull" in Vancouver? ...you bet your ass i would.

i believe the horse is dead and in the process of being beaten.

Beachmuscle
27-08-2009, 04:32 AM
by reason then we have no right to judge cultures which foster child molestation. my right or not, i am judging.

I've always liked your posts and your opinions are solid, but comparing child molesters to people who eat dogs is like apples and oranges.

On another note, speaking about dogs and other animals... how humane is it really where alot of these farms these animals come from?