freakin misdosed orals [Archive] - CANADA BODYBUILDING

17-08-2009, 02:28 PM

so i have abottle of cialis left from a popular UG, yes, the one your thinking of

sometimes, i take 1 pill, ZERO effects

sometimes, i take 1 pill, good to go for the next 2 days

last thrusday morning, i take 1 pill... today my junk is still rock hard @ the slightest breeze... and tres sore, esp this morning i had to wrap it in a incepack for a minute

2* oral for the lose

pseclint

17-08-2009, 02:33 PM

hmmm never had this prob with my UG....... sux bro

rated_rko

17-08-2009, 02:37 PM

thats messed up bo

canadianmuscle0803

17-08-2009, 02:37 PM

im guessing these are caps and not pills?

tex

17-08-2009, 03:28 PM

Mad-Bull

17-08-2009, 03:37 PM

scary. you know what it takes to get properly mixed caps? a ziplock bag and a rolling pin.......thats it......put the powders into the bag.....leave a little bit of air in the bag when you seal it.....use rolling pin to run over the bag gently...letting that little bit of air mix the powders together evenly.....and then with a decent capper it takes no time at all to get all caps filled evenly......these are the SIMPLE things......imagine what happens to the injectables?!?!

Have you ever capped anything?

legaliz3 it could be the fact that your body reacts differently to the drug at different times. Depending on how often you take it, and your current hormone levels. I promise you this, the Cialis you took LAST Thursday is NOT still affecting you. I can guarantee you your body is just having a good day, I don't know if you require Cialis. But obviously something in your body is different today, and the cialis is not a contributing factor.

canadianmuscle0803

17-08-2009, 03:54 PM

^ no.. hes right.. any lab that makes caps will potentially be mis dosed, i have had this issue many many times..

17-08-2009, 04:10 PM

ive used this bottle both on and off cycle, with the same inconsistent results. i'm not suffereing from ED yet, so the cialis is just recreational. use it maybe 3x a month max

i agree with mad bull, i may just be having a great bonerific day, **** i'd be happy if every cap gave me these results

...but to have some which do literally dick all and have ones which are super potent is no fun

canadianmuscle0803

17-08-2009, 04:18 PM

if you open the caps.. lets say you open 5 of them.. you will see how inconsistent they really are..

guest

17-08-2009, 05:27 PM

if you open the caps.. lets say you open 5 of them.. you will see how inconsistent they really are..

this just might lead to cappers finally using a ****ing tamper. some labs use clear caps so you know they are full.

this however does not address poor blending of powder. whenever i capped some items for my own use i would use a food processor and mix with rice powder(the best mixer IMO), i would add a small amount of colored juice crystals so that i could tell the items were well mixed when the color was even.

Seth

17-08-2009, 08:03 PM

i would add a small amount of colored juice crystals so that i could tell the items were well mixed when the color was even.

Good idea, plus it gives the orals a better taste ;)

rufusrocks

17-08-2009, 08:21 PM

it's a roll of the dice man. there is no way a UGL will get exact or correct doasges in each cap- only tabs.
the whole precipice UGL no Pharmacist. it's a risk. this problem will not go away.

Big D

17-08-2009, 09:25 PM

time to send this to some ugl labs

this just might lead to cappers finally using a ****ing tamper. some labs use clear caps so you know they are full.

this however does not address poor blending of powder. whenever i capped some items for my own use i would use a food processor and mix with rice powder(the best mixer IMO), i would add a small amount of colored juice crystals so that i could tell the items were well mixed when the color was even.

nisser

17-08-2009, 09:33 PM

Yeah, can the UG labs also add food coloring to liquid orals as well. Having colored clen squirted into a glass of water would be great.

rufusrocks

17-08-2009, 09:53 PM

maybe there is some thread somewhere on how they get the this into that and that into 'holy capsule Batman i thought vitamins were chewable too'

baza

17-08-2009, 10:24 PM

Have you ever capped anything?

legaliz3 it could be the fact that your body reacts differently to the drug at different times. Depending on how often you take it, and your current hormone levels. I promise you this, the Cialis you took LAST Thursday is NOT still affecting you. I can guarantee you your body is just having a good day, I don't know if you require Cialis. But obviously something in your body is different today, and the cialis is not a contributing factor.

That's a pretty foolish post. I will guarantee you, if you took pharm grade you would not have a similar situation.

Rep the brand? Friend reps it? Friend is running it?

Slevin

17-08-2009, 10:30 PM

im guessing these are caps and not pills?

You do realize that whether they are tablets or capsules they can still be just as inconsistent, right?

The mixing process is relatively the same regardless of what you're doing. The argument that tablets are more consistent than capsules has been de-bunked ages ago.

I agree with Banacek when it comes to mixing though. Numerous, numerous labs will only 'single tap' their orals which can lead to major inconsistencies. A 'double tap' method with clear capsules will show exactly which labs put the time/effort into their orals.

gustavo77

17-08-2009, 10:38 PM

You do realize that whether they are tablets or capsules they can still be just as inconsistent, right?

The mixing process is relatively the same regardless of what you're doing. The argument that tablets are more consistent than capsules has been de-bunked ages ago.

I agree with Banacek when it comes to mixing though. Numerous, numerous labs will only 'single tap' their orals which can lead to major inconsistencies. A 'double tap' method with clear capsules will show exactly which labs put the time/effort into their orals.

Good info and a thought or two for labs to ponder... Labs need to go the extra mile nowadays or their days in business will be short...too much competition out there...

ironwill

17-08-2009, 10:42 PM

Good info and a thought or two for labs to ponder... Labs need to go the extra mile nowadays or their days in business will be short...too much competition out there...
i remember the good ol days when you placed a good order and you would get a couple freebies thrown in.....doesnt happen to much anymore....

gustavo77

17-08-2009, 10:45 PM

i remember the good ol days when you placed a good order and you would get a couple freebies thrown in.....doesnt happen to much anymore....

I remember that too bro...seems the recession has hit hard all over...but now that the recession is supposed to be over...freebies!!...i want freebees!!!

Ritch

17-08-2009, 10:58 PM

Just get the one`s by a company that makes them in 50mg caps. Even if they **** up and there`s only half the cialis in there you still have 25mg...

baza

17-08-2009, 11:14 PM

i remember the good ol days when you placed a good order and you would get a couple freebies thrown in.....doesnt happen to much anymore....

yeah, but there was little competition and much higher prices.
Source used to make $80 a bottle, now makes $30 a bottle.

gustavo77

17-08-2009, 11:29 PM

yeah, but there was little competition and much higher prices.
Source used to make $80 a bottle, now makes $30 a bottle.

Exactly what they should make and even less with the price of raws the way they are...no need to rape the end user for what cost pennies to make...greed...that's all that shit is...thank God the market tempered some of that greed...

GYMBRAT

18-08-2009, 12:22 AM

i remember the good ol days when you placed a good order and you would get a couple freebies thrown in.....doesnt happen to much anymore....

Sure don't happen much at all shit! ...there is the odd and I say that lightly ODD couple UGL's out there that will still do this :ji

baza

18-08-2009, 12:54 AM

Exactly what they should make and even less with the price of raws the way they are...no need to rape the end user for what cost pennies to make...greed...that's all that shit is...thank God the market tempered some of that greed...

I disagree. It's a drug business. And you risk your freedom for easy profits. Guys selling cocaine aren't making a few dollars. It shouldn't be much different.

tex

18-08-2009, 12:59 AM

Have you ever capped anything?

legaliz3 it could be the fact that your body reacts differently to the drug at different times. Depending on how often you take it, and your current hormone levels. I promise you this, the Cialis you took LAST Thursday is NOT still affecting you. I can guarantee you your body is just having a good day, I don't know if you require Cialis. But obviously something in your body is different today, and the cialis is not a contributing factor. Have YOU ever capped anything......legally.....and in a setting where your work was overseen by a registered pharmacist on every product? :) I have. Caps, troches, suppositories, injects, suckers, creams, lotions, gels etc....this was years ago tho.....maybe capping has become way more difficult.....

ironwill

18-08-2009, 09:15 AM

I disagree. It's a drug business. And you risk your freedom for easy profits. Guys selling cocaine aren't making a few dollars. It shouldn't be much different.
it isnt cocaine, nor even in the same league dude, you are making a weak comparison......
There are profits to be made, and as time goes on there is more and more greed occurring......fakes, underdosed crap etc.....no need for it......
My only point is, a good order should be rewarded, as in almost any other customer/supplier relation always has been, and should still be,.....
nowadays its not happening so much is my only observation....

natenator

18-08-2009, 09:41 AM

Exactly what they should make and even less with the price of raws the way they are...no need to rape the end user for what cost pennies to make...greed...that's all that shit is...thank God the market tempered some of that greed...
I disagree with it all being greed. They take all the risk of bringing it into the country. You can make it as cheap as they can - just find a powder source and take the customs risk.

I'm willing to bet some of these guys do lose packs so there's a trade-off that has to be made... charge enough to cover the potential financial loss due to packs going missing or hope for the best.

In general I do think prices are high but again, they carry all the risk. If I'm going to go through the risk I better be sure the reward is great enough.

natenator

18-08-2009, 09:47 AM

it isnt cocaine, nor even in the same league dude, you are making a weak comparison......
There are profits to be made, and as time goes on there is more and more greed occurring......fakes, underdosed crap etc.....no need for it......
My only point is, a good order should be rewarded, as in almost any other customer/supplier relation always has been, and should still be,.....
nowadays its not happening so much is my only observation....
I disagree that a good order should be rewarded. Order it or not but don't expect to think you should be rewarded for a good sized order.

It's nice if it happens bout shouldn't be expected. But I'm likely in the minority here as I don't haggle over car prices either. The price is the price and if I want it and I can afford it then I buy it. I've been on the other end of someone nickeling and diming me and it's a soleless feeling so I won't do it to others.

baza

18-08-2009, 10:06 AM

C-money

18-08-2009, 10:20 AM

I disagree that a good order should be rewarded. Order it or not but don't expect to think you should be rewarded for a good sized order.

It's nice if it happens bout shouldn't be expected. But I'm likely in the minority here as I don't haggle over car prices either. The price is the price and if I want it and I can afford it then I buy it. I've been on the other end of someone nickeling and diming me and it's a soleless feeling so I won't do it to others.

Im the same way nate... i dont haggle, if i think the price is right ill buy it! I just better get what im paying for... if im buying something that says its 250mg/ml or 25mg per cap it better be! If its not thats just bad business.....