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Admin
24-12-2007, 05:08 AM
In lieu of questions some people have been asking, this is the law of entrapment in Canada.

The Supreme Court of Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Canada) developed the Canadian version of the doctrine of entrapment in three major decisions: R. v. Amato (http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1982/1982canlii31/1982canlii31.html), [1982] 2 S.C.R. 418, R. v. Mack (http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1988/1988canlii24/1988canlii24.html), [1988] 2 S.C.R. 903, and R. v. Barnes (http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1991/1991canlii84/1991canlii84.html), [1991] 1 S.C.R. 449. There are two different forms of entrapment in Canadian law.

The first type of entrapment, "random virtue testing", occurs when the police offer an individual the opportunity to commit a crime without reasonable suspicion that either that individual, or the place where that individual is located, is associated with the criminal activity under investigation.

If police do have such a reasonable suspicion, they are still limited to providing only an opportunity to commit the offence. The second form of entrapment occurs when the police go beyond merely providing an opportunity to commit an offence, and instead actually induce the commission of the offence. Some factors a court may consider when deciding whether police have induced the offence include the type of crime being investigated, whether an average person would have been induced, the persistence and number of attempts made by the police, the type of inducement used (e.g. fraud, deceit, reward), and the existence of express or implied threats.

The question of entrapment is only considered after there has been a finding of guilt. If, after finding the accused guilty, the court determines that the accused was entrapped, the court will enter a judicial stay of proceedings. In effect, this is similar to an acquittal.

redsamurai
24-12-2007, 12:52 PM
How are things in Canada with LE? Has the U.S exported it's retarded drug policies up north? I was under the understanding that unless you're running a lab and shipping to the U.S..........canada could give a ****....???

How are things with Canadian sources shipping to Canadian customers? If I was a source in Canada now I wouldn't deal with U.S customers for some time.

So are there controlled deliveries being done in Canada over a couple bottles of test? :eek:

Xplode
24-12-2007, 06:39 PM
So are there controlled deliveries being done in Canada over a couple bottles of test? :eek:

I was wondering the same?! I was going to order with an international source but the more I read the more I think I will wait until I find a domestic UG. That way I avoid the whole customs thing and worry.

Does anyone know more about controlled deliveries?

Gib
24-12-2007, 07:36 PM
Im sure it can happen (controlled delieveries) though I havent heard of it.

And be careful of what you read up above, a lot of my progam in university deals with studying law and its application, and that one magic phrase "reasonable suspicion" gives LE a HUGE grey are to work in. If they can justify their actions in any way they hae reasonable suspicion.

(Well your honor, he had big arms, and in my experiences, guys who do AAS have big arms, so i searched him and found product xyz) = busted.

physique
24-12-2007, 09:19 PM
I was wondering the same?! I was going to order with an international source but the more I read the more I think I will wait until I find a domestic UG. That way I avoid the whole customs thing and worry.

Does anyone know more about controlled deliveries?
wonder how many pms or emails u will receive with this post. be wary if u get any bro.

St
24-12-2007, 11:20 PM
Great thread.:)

TheBigStink
25-12-2007, 12:07 AM
Im sure it can happen (controlled delieveries) though I havent heard of it.

And be careful of what you read up above, a lot of my progam in university deals with studying law and its application, and that one magic phrase "reasonable suspicion" gives LE a HUGE grey are to work in. If they can justify their actions in any way they hae reasonable suspicion.

(Well your honor, he had big arms, and in my experiences, guys who do AAS have big arms, so i searched him and found product xyz) = busted.

exactamundo. especially if it involves any significant seizure.

bottleneckblooz
25-12-2007, 07:10 AM
I never thought it made much sense for LE to pretend to be a dealer just to bust someone for buying. Especially here in Canada. It seems to me they would spend more resources trying to bust dealers. Although they may be using that tactic to try to get more info on dealers somehow.
Maybe we should just all go back to snail mail.

blimp
25-12-2007, 09:14 AM
xplode be careful about anyone who contacts you asking if you are looking for a source. Not only can LE be browsing these forums but there have been rumors of scamming as of late.

Guys, also take note of this part

The question of entrapment is only considered after there has been a finding of guilt. If, after finding the accused guilty, the court determines that the accused was entrapped, the court will enter a judicial stay of proceedings. In effect, this is similar to an acquittal.

Xplode
27-12-2007, 08:23 PM
xplode be careful about anyone who contacts you asking if you are looking for a source. Not only can LE be browsing these forums but there have been rumors of scamming as of late

Thanks for the heads up guys! I will try to be a little more discreet in the future...

bigdaddydrew123
28-12-2007, 11:58 AM
too bad le wastes time and money on aas when there are drugs that kill people being sold right on street corners right under their noses. just doesnt make sense

thecut
29-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Great post, need to see more like this.

BAM
30-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Beware of people asking about LE and sources with under 10 posts.
(especially if it looks like they are replying to themselves)

deaconfrost
04-01-2008, 10:50 PM
Okay, I have to ask. What's LE? Legal entrapment? Google search comes up empty.

blimp
04-01-2008, 11:15 PM
law enforcement

Van Zan
05-01-2008, 03:37 AM
what is a source?

St
05-01-2008, 03:46 AM
what is a source?

It could be a source of carb,protein,or fat.:D

td1111
07-01-2008, 10:18 PM
Theoretically speaking, when they pose as a dealer to entrap a coke buyer, they don't sell real stuff, do they? Only "fake" coke, etc?