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TryGear
15-08-2009, 01:17 PM
I've been reading hear for some time and have a question, first off all I've been training for the better part of 20years, and about two years ago started on aas, done 3 cycles D/t400, d/tren, d/tren/t400.
I compete in a sport "not bodybuilding" and will be getting tested in about a year.
so my question(s) are:
1. if I do a cycle of t400 "test cyp, enat, and Decan" with D as a kick starter for 12 weeks, will I be clean 22 weeks later?
2. I plan on using Dbol or Winny tabs for maintainence after that cycle and after pct."until after the test". how long before the test should I come off the orals?
Thanks for any advice.
deleteduser0002
15-08-2009, 01:25 PM
I've been reading hear for some time and have a question, first off all I've been training for the better part of 20years, and about two years ago started on aas, done 3 cycles D/t400, d/tren, d/tren/t400.
I compete in a sport "not bodybuilding" and will be getting tested in about a year.
so my question(s) are:
1. if I do a cycle of t400 "test cyp, enat, and Decan" with D as a kick starter for 12 weeks, will I be clean 22 weeks later?
2. I plan on using Dbol or Winny tabs for maintainence after that cycle and after pct."until after the test". how long before the test should I come off the orals?
Thanks for any advice.
You test positive for testosterone metabolites for up to 3 months or so after your last shot. And test positive for dbol and winny for 3-6 weeks after.....if you take any nandralone drugs (ie Deca) you can test postive for up to 18 months.
varking
15-08-2009, 01:30 PM
Ok please dont call dbol (D).... Also I would say stay away from the orals when you are on pct....
TryGear
15-08-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks, I was curious about the 3 month thing? I see that on most of the forums, and was wondering if that was an average time or more towards a maximum time of detection.
the Decanoate ester had me worried because of nandrolone decanoate being 18 months.
and I don't plan on using the orals during pct, but more as a carryover for the big gap between the end of my cycle "end of PCT also " and testing.
TryGear
15-08-2009, 11:02 PM
6 weeks seems long for oral detection. but I guess 6 weeks is listed for a reason. hopefully the average joe gets away with closer to 3 weeks, I'm thinking I have a high metabolizism since I can drop weight like it's going out of style, hopefully that'll be in my favor.
use test suspension cuz it clears in no time.....thats what John Wayne would do......no ester = yay for pro/tested sports!
BEANPOLENB
31-08-2009, 04:29 PM
I don't believe they test for test metabolites. Usually the test the ratio between epitestosterone and testosterone. If u r injecting test your ratio won't be anywhere near even. I've heard of a mixture of the 2 to inject but have never seen it.
TryGear
31-08-2009, 06:54 PM
so.......it may be longer than 6 weeks for my ratio to return to normal?
BEANPOLENB
01-09-2009, 12:13 AM
I'm far from an expert but I am in a tested sport(not bodybuilding). Most guys I train with stick to short acting test mainly. Prop is out of the system quickly. 6 weeks there should be nothing left of any test. You never hear of a positive for testosterone cuz its already there. High levels are suspicious but think u r allowed 6-1 test-epi from what I've gathered. Nandrolone is the apparently the worst(metabolites that float around for years), I used it once and now I'm paranoid an avoiding tested competions. Anyways good luck with your testing ya cheater
BEANPOLENB
01-09-2009, 12:18 AM
If you dig around with google you can find a list of detection times for all the common aas. I don't trust it 100 percent but its a good read.
bigtavi8
01-09-2009, 08:46 AM
In my personal expierence orals (var, winny dbol) showed up in the system 8 weeks later. There were no questions to be asked. It was a postive test and i thouht they would have been out quicker.
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