EQ only cyle??

[MMASTAR]

Just wondering if anyone has run an EQ only cycle? what dosage, length and what results? As well what would be the lowest amount of test to add it to an EQ cycle? 400mg a week? I would be using this as a cutting cycle, as long as my appetite doesnt go through the roof. I have read that you can add proviron to an EQ only cycle to combat the effects it would have on your erections!! Basically just looking for any EQ advice, I was thinking of running 400mg a week of EQ and cycleing clen throught for 16 weeks as a cutting/strength cycle. Thanks gentlemen!!

[Ritch]

I doubt anybody will vouch for that cycle.

[C-money]

since youre pinning anyways run 500 mgs of test every week with the eq and youre good to go!

[MMASTAR]

I have read that only test prop is good for cutting and am not wanting to jab eod.. as well i like that EQ doesnt aromatize as fast... i really worry about gyno from test... maybe to much.. any advice on test E or C for cutting??

[C-money]

I have read that only test prop is good for cutting and am not wanting to jab eod.. as well i like that EQ doesnt aromatize as fast... i really worry about gyno from test... maybe to much.. any advice on test E or C for cutting??

If you dont wanna jab EOD just go test e, (diet makes or breaks cutting not the durgs)... have nolva on hand for gyno, its saved me in the past, some people arent even prone to gyno... you could be one of those lucky ones who can run a gram of test and not worry about it!:a+

[varking]

You will be fine with test e and some ant- e`s I have used eq by its self not worth it dude try this
500mg test e
500mg eq
with an ant-e for bloat could also add in some winny...

[L3]

imo eq is fine to run by itself at 600mg/wk... i know st likes it...but it will show up in your system for a loooong time in case you have to get tested

[C-money]

imo eq is fine to run by itself at 600mg/wk... i know st likes it...but it will show up in your system for a loooong time in case you have to get tested

Definately something to think about if youre competing^^^

[varking]

imo eq is fine to run by itself at 600mg/wk... i know st likes it...but it will show up in your system for a loooong time in case you have to get tested

It is fine by itself but its better with test no question why wouldnt he want to add test e you can cut down while on test e so add it I would only say eq only would be good if you cant stand the sides you get from test

[MMASTAR]

they dont test in canada.. so it is possible to cut on test e?? maybe should just run some test and clen?? for test what do u guys use for pct just nolva? or HCG as well?? how much at risk for sides would i be at 500 mg a week?? or should i go lower for cutting?? 400 mg a week?? i like that eq has a positive on cardio as well.. anyone ever run EQ only??

[MMASTAR]

As well i have read you only need to pin EQ once a week... is this true or would twice a week maintain more stble blood levels??

[hulkster]

ive ran just eq at 600mg a week for 3 months, i only gained about 5-7 lbs but i got pretty firm and cut looking. i took it with dbol for the last month though to gain a few extra lbs

[MMASTAR]

ive ran just eq at 600mg a week for 3 months, i only gained about 5-7 lbs but i got pretty firm and cut looking. i took it with dbol for the last month though to gain a few extra lbs

how were your strength gains on just the EQ? did u drop BF? were you overall happy with your results?

[hulkster]

it definitly has the lowest side effects of any steroid ive used so thats a huge plus! you dont get quik sudden gains from eq thats why i like it, and your strength goes up but not all at once. also im not too sure about my bf%, i would be inclined to say it went down but im not 100% sure cause i never tested it

[hulkster]

id say run it with 500mg test.. thats what i would do i ran it again

[pw154]

ive ran just eq at 600mg a week for 3 months, i only gained about 5-7 lbs but i got pretty firm and cut looking. i took it with dbol for the last month though to gain a few extra lbs5-7 lbs in 3 months?? That's not even worth it, unless you dropped 5-7 lbs of bodyfat cocurrently. 5 lbs in 3 months is achievable naturally

[hulkster]

i left out that i had already gained 20lbs from before that, i was just trying to lean out and keep my weight around. i pretty much lost my water weight when i was on it while gaining some quality muscle... its very much worth it man give it a try!

[MMASTAR]

any anxiety on cycle? ive heard this can be an issue... how was your diet while on?

[fathead]

mmastar- im going to go against the grain and get told i dont know what im doing, "test is best" yada yada yada but...

i love EQ. its my drug of choice. an equ cycle alone is fine in my opinion and thats my opinion, not whats on paper or what every guy reads and repeats so take it for what its worth.

you need 600mg+ per week and you need to be willing to do it for 16 weeks plus with pretty much no results for at least 5-6 weeks. take it 2x weekly.

you wont gain a ton of weight (if any at all) and if you are using it for cutting (which is all i use gear for) you will lose weight. it will make you hard, strong and vascular, NOT HUGE so make sure your goals line up with that.

as mentioned, for me at least, this drug is pretty much side effect free. i have issues with hair and skin and its no problem in that regard. many complain of anxiety, never been in issue for me.

i love equ in a big dose for a long time but wouldnt recommend it for a first timer or newbie who hasnt used test. test is great and cheap and effective, i just dont like it. try test first if you havent but if what i described sounds like what you want i wouldnt hesitate.

and keep in mind, not to rag on anyone here, but 9/10 guys telling you equ alone is a "bad cycle" have never tried it, they have just read, heard or been told it is.

and as for your weiner.... i have no problems in the erection department on a wack of equ for a lengthly period of time (20wks +), and my balls never even move on me, however my sex drive does diminish so you may have to take something to combat that, however if i want to have sex its never a problem and i still wake up with hard ons every day.

[MMASTAR]

Thanks fathead.. i definetly have my goals in line.. not looking to get huge, im an athlete not a bodybuilder.. nice to get info from someone who has personal experience.

[C-money]

mmastar- im going to go against the grain and get told i dont know what im doing, "test is best" yada yada yada but...

i love EQ. its my drug of choice. an equ cycle alone is fine in my opinion and thats my opinion, not whats on paper or what every guy reads and repeats so take it for what its worth.

you need 600mg+ per week and you need to be willing to do it for 16 weeks plus with pretty much no results for at least 5-6 weeks. take it 2x weekly.

you wont gain a ton of weight (if any at all) and if you are using it for cutting (which is all i use gear for) you will lose weight. it will make you hard, strong and vascular, NOT HUGE so make sure your goals line up with that.

as mentioned, for me at least, this drug is pretty much side effect free. i have issues with hair and skin and its no problem in that regard. many complain of anxiety, never been in issue for me.

i love equ in a big dose for a long time but wouldnt recommend it for a first timer or newbie who hasnt used test. test is great and cheap and effective, i just dont like it. try test first if you havent but if what i described sounds like what you want i wouldnt hesitate.

and keep in mind, not to rag on anyone here, but 9/10 guys telling you equ alone is a "bad cycle" have never tried it, they have just read, heard or been told it is.

and as for your weiner.... i have no problems in the erection department on a wack of equ for a lengthly period of time (20wks +), and my balls never even move on me, however my sex drive does diminish so you may have to take something to combat that, however if i want to have sex its never a problem and i still wake up with hard ons every day.


Im not saying eq alone is bad.... I just dont get why you wouldnt pin at least 250mgs of test with the eq, your gonna get better results, youre pinning anyways..:bch

[fathead]

Im not saying eq alone is bad.... I just dont get why you wouldnt pin at least 250mgs of test with the eq, your gonna get better results, youre pinning anyways..:bch

sure. i have run this cycle along with test anywhere from 250-350-500mg as well and prefer it without. most guys love test, some dont. you dont hear too much about those guys. im one of them.

[kloan]

i must admit im a bit intrigued by this idea... i certainly didn't like all the bloating test gave me.. even with adex i got way too bloated.. lots of stretch marks from my last cycle.

interesting take on eq only. i wonder how it'd match up to doin it with var somewhere in between the 16 weeks.

anything else eq go well with?

[varking]

I would use primo and eq togther if you want to keep sides low also var would be a very nice add to that cycle

[theboss]

Im not saying eq alone is bad.... I just dont get why you wouldnt pin at least 250mgs of test with the eq, your gonna get better results, youre pinning anyways..:bch

X2.....and why not throw in some Var

[MMASTAR]

I would use primo and eq togther if you want to keep sides low also var would be a very nice add to that cycle

This would be a very nice cycle.. but would cost a small fortune.. I was thinking of running EQ and cycling clen... when would be best to throw in var begining or end of cycle?? i would think end...

[theboss]

again...i would not do EQ alone....i would atleast throw in 250mg of test...perhaps more.

[MMASTAR]

Even if im not looking to put on weight? I was gonna use EQ while dieting...Im worried that if i add test ill get to big..

[Ritch]

Even if im not looking to put on weight? I was gonna use EQ while dieting...Im worried that if i add test ill get to big..

Ha! I started my cycle with test end equi. 500mg test, 400mg equi. Started dieting slowly. For a long time my weight wasen`t changing, just seamed to be getting leaner. Then I increased my doses to 800mg test, and 600mg equi, still was getting leaner, but as I was dieting, my bodyweight began to drop as well. Got to around 220 looking lean enough and now am going for mass.

This just to say that you won`t get "too big". No way. Plus my doses are way higher in total mg on what you plan on running. So don`t worry about it. Plus you do mma and that must burn a shit load of cals...

[theboss]

Even if im not looking to put on weight? I was gonna use EQ while dieting...Im worried that if i add test ill get to big..

its all in how you eat.....test E can be a good cutter with the right diet and training.

thats why i recomment Test + EQ cycle.....keep in mind EQ is known to INCREASE appetite.

[C-money]

Exactly^

[MMASTAR]

ok so.. i think i will run 500mg ew of EQ and 300mg ew of test e for 18 weeks...i will also cycle clen throughout 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.. is there anything i else i need to include during cycle as far as anti e's or anything?? As well what would be proper pct for this?? And when would i start pct? Should i stop the test and eq at the same time or one before the other? I have some nolva around... should i include HCG? Need some help with the details boys.. thanks!! It will be a little while before i can start this but would like to get it all worked out and in order first anyway.(sorry for all the questions.. newbies hey...lol)

[baza]

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[MMASTAR]

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[theboss]

ok so.. i think i will run 500mg ew of EQ and 300mg ew of test e for 18 weeks...i will also cycle clen throughout 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.. is there anything i else i need to include during cycle as far as anti e's or anything?? As well what would be proper pct for this?? And when would i start pct? Should i stop the test and eq at the same time or one before the other? I have some nolva around... should i include HCG? Need some help with the details boys.. thanks!! It will be a little while before i can start this but would like to get it all worked out and in order first anyway.(sorry for all the questions.. newbies hey...lol)

EQ should be run atleast 15 weeks...
run the test E 2 weeks longer than the EQ...
i would use HCG since the cycle is so long throughout and up until start of PCT...everyone recommends diff doses...for me 300-500iu E3D
PCT of clomid & nolva

[Ritch]

It`s already been said the run the equi 2 weeks longer than the test. So you`re either going to run test for 16 weeks or 20. For a cycle this long I`d run hcg to make recovery easier. All kinds of ways to do this. Could do 500iu twice a week in 2 shots per week or run 500iu twice a week for the last 10 weeks. Eiter way you will need 10 000 iu`s minimun. I wouldn`t take the risk of not having some arimidex incase the gyno fairy decides to come visit you.

Pct is a whole other argument. Could start 2 weeks after your last test shot, then run nolvadex and aromasin for 6 weeks. Nolva at 20 mg (some may even suggest higher like 40mg) and aromasin at 25mg the first 3 weeks, then taper them down the last 3.

[MMASTAR]

Thanks boss.. so how long after my last test shot do i start pct?

[MMASTAR]

So many diffrent things to think about.. they really should do some human testing to come up with the best stratagies..lol..any volunteers?? thanks guys.

[kloan]

It`s already been said the run the equi 2 weeks longer than the test.

theboss recommended the other way around...

[Ritch]

theboss recommended the other way around...

****, that `s what I meant! And is what I`ll be doing myself, thanks for pointing that out.