Vick signs with Eagles...

[LonelyBedouin]

I cant see how he will fit in here. They dont need anymore leadership and they are fine in the QB department. I dont understand the move here... Unless the Eagles think that Vick is the missing piece from last year reaching the NFC championship game

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

you aint talking about that POS m.vick i thought he could no longer play this is ****ing stupid the guys a GOOF!



TVG

[LonelyBedouin]

Yupp this is the guy, who bankrolled dogfighting. He is now playing for the Eagles. And for some reason I expect him to start atleast one game...

[natenator]

why is it disgusting? Dan Heatley killed a guy. Dante Stallworth killed a guy. Pacman Jones numerous arrests and criminal investigations. Numerous others involved in violent crime.

Michael Vick paid his time in jail and I personally believe he spent too long in jail. Rapists and child molesters get less jail time than he did. I don't condone what he did but how is what he did worse that what the people above have done?

[champcar99]

besides I am sure the Eagles got on hell of a deal on him from being the highest paid QP to probably the cheapest paid QP and if he's still got it..Then the Eagles got a screaming deal...I do hope some defenders lay the smack on him and a few illegal hits to the helmet to wake the asshole up from his ghetto past...He just seems so stupid too me like some highschool dropout ghetto mentality...

[marino]

This just makes it easier for me to hate the eagles

[champcar99]

This just makes it easier for me to hate the eagles

I am sure there are hundreds of thousands of people saying the same thing...

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

why is it disgusting? Dan Heatley killed a guy. Dante Stallworth killed a guy. Pacman Jones numerous arrests and criminal investigations. Numerous others involved in violent crime.

Michael Vick paid his time in jail and I personally believe he spent too long in jail. Rapists and child molesters get less jail time than he did. I don't condone what he did but how is what he did worse that what the people above have done?

Too long in jail???

listen i agree with you to the point of the other ****s getting less time for worse and i hate them ****s just the same!!
they are all pieces of shit!

the system is ****ed and people get far less then what they derserve



http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=off+the+chain&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#


Vick does not derserve to be allowed to go back to play ball


And im shocked right now that he is


that guy and SOOOOO many others got far less then what they deserve!




TVG

[natenator]

Because those dogs didn't have a choice. He trained them to fight each other and if they lost, he killed them brutally. Any other questions? I don't know anyone else other than Dany Heatley and as far as I know, the parents of the guy he killed. Didn't press charges because they felt it was an accident. Asking me why Micheal Vick is digusting is a stupid question.
So I guess he should have killed a human instead and that would have been more tolerable in your eyes?

I don't know anyone who condones what he has done but given sports have some violent offenders towards humans playing the game (still) and there doesn't seem to be an outcry against them as much as Vick.

I don't like the guy as a player or as a person but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance. It's not like he killed or raped a person...

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

So I guess he should have killed a human instead and that would have been more tolerable in your eyes?

I don't know anyone who condones what he has done but given sports have some violent offenders towards humans playing the game (still) and there doesn't seem to be an outcry against them as much as Vick.

I don't like the guy as a player or as a person but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a second chance. It's not like he killed or raped a person...

this is true people have been de sensatised <<(spelling?) with violence against one another
but he's still a POS!


TVG

[natenator]

didn't say anything like that at all?

I eluded to what Dany Heatly's friend's parents did. If Dany Heatly purposely killed his friend because he had no more use for him, or just killed him purposely at all. I'd have the same outlook only worse. That didn't happen though. If Micheal Vick ran over a dog with his car by accident, hey... mistakes are made. What he did was a deliberate act of cruelty.

That's what I see in my eyes.
Intention matters for sure but so does the outcome. Should it matter that I killed someone if it was an accident? A crime is a crime. Someone died regardless of it being an accident or not.

We have a double standard here it seems and either ALL athletes with criminal acts on their records should be banned from sports or not regardless of the crime comitted. If we're to send a message that bad behaviour is not to be condoned then we need to enforce that through the only way leagues can: limit their professional money making athletic careers

[natenator]

I believe there is a difference between and accident and a deliberate act. Yes.

If a person is running around, and runs across the road drunk and being stupid and gets hit by a car. It shouldn't be the person driving fault. If there's someone walking across the street, the person driving has their head down changing their cd, and texting. That's not deliberate, but the driver is stupid and it is their fault. If the person is crossing the street, and the person driving says "**** this guy." and slams into him, it's his fault. I agree with you on some of what you say nate. Does the guy deserve to live a life? Sure. Do I like him? No. Do I think he's a piece of shit? Yes. Was everything I said here a opinion of mine? Yes. Please don't take it to heart... it is, my opinion. I didn't ask for it to be called out. I just made a comment about him being disgusting, and that comment stands.
No one is taking anything to heart. It's a discussion and a debate. You make a statement I have a right to question those thoughts and opinions as a member of this board. It's a discussion forum afterall ;)

No one is calling you out. I asked why he (and not others) is disgusting to you. No need to get defensive man.

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

TVG






he'll never live it down !!


AND! what goes around come around! i hope!

[natenator]

I'm actually not mad at all dude, Just giving my .02.

That why I said earlier, to each their own.

Unfortunately on the internet, you can't tell a mood of someone else. I just said, "Don't take it to heart" because I don't want you to think i have an issue with anything you say. I don't, you're a cool guy and good board member. That's why I said "Don't take it to heart." I'm not here to argue with anyone. I've been around the boards for many years and i'm sure there's more than a few vets here who know my nature. I'm a calm, respectful guy. So no i'm not getting defensive, i'm just making sure you know i'm not here to argue over opinions.
All good my man :)

[natenator]

TVG






he'll never live it down !!


AND! what goes around come around! i hope!
LMAO!

[LonelyBedouin]

I read most of the posts and didnt notice anyone bringing up the point that Stallworth and Heatly were both DRUNK at the wheel. And both got less of a charge then Vick (I know Heatly was not charged). But in any circumstance any other person would have done more time and would not spend 28 days in jail and a year suspension from work.

I think Vick has earned his second chance. No I dont like the guy, nor do I condone what he has done. But someone like Stallworth has not payed his debt to society, he should have been charged like anyone else, although he payed his way out of it.

[physique]

its all because of tony dungey. tony thinks he is a different person and has put 100% faith into Vick. i think Reid wants to use the wildcat this year and no one better for that play then Vick.

also Reids kids are heroin addicts. maybe Vick can talk some sense into them. who knows. but it all revolves around Toney Dungey.

[UkrainianGuy]

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[meathead]

Hopefully someone will take out his knees and f**k him up. The guy is a loser.

[kawikaratekid]

I don't agree with what he did at all. I do question people who kill a variety of different animals to eat or hunt for sport and chirp him. What's the difference between killing a deer or other random animal with a bow and letting it die slowly? It's still inhumane....One more thing he should still be allowed to work in his profession should he not? The only relation the crime had to his profession was the financial aspect.

[LonelyBedouin]

I don't agree with what he did at all. I do question people who kill a variety of different animals to eat or hunt for sport and chirp him. What's the difference between killing a deer or other random animal with a bow and letting it die slowly? It's still inhumane....One more thing he should still be allowed to work in his profession should he not? The only relation the crime had to his profession was the financial aspect.

I agree with the hunting for sport but not hunting for actually eating. As long as nothing is wasted, most hunters (experienced ones) they do not die slowly its a one shot kill, unless there using a bow.

Thats the way I fell, why should he not be allowed to work in his profession? Any other ex-convict has the opportunity to go back to where they previously worked if they can get the job. I see this as no difference

[meathead]

Hunting for food is fine. We as humans all have to eat.

Killing animals for fun IMO is shit! Whether its trophy hunting or watching animals fight for sport.

Every hunter I know always goes for a kill shot. If the animal is left suffering, isn't killed very quickly, or has to be chased down etc... the meat is ruined from the animals adrenalin.

Vick is scum! Just a few of the things he did:

Electrocuted dogs

Drowned dogs

Stabbed dogs

had rape racks for forced breeding

Killed puppies

Shot dogs

Pulled dogs teeth out so the could be used as bait dogs (they get fought and cant fight back because of them having no teeth)

Classic signs of a sociopath. That is the kind of shit serial killers like Clifford Olson do before moving on to torturing and killing little kids.

He has every right to earn a living. However, being in the public eye he is a role model to children everywhere whether he likes it or not. It comes with the turf. It sends a negative message to other kids who want to be like him.

He has no remorse for what he has done and I would love to run into him when no one was around.

I have seen some of the rescued Vick dogs.

I volunteer rescuing and rehabilitating dogs for various organizations including the SPCA. They come and live with me as foster dogs until such time a suitable home is found.

I pay for food, vet bills, toys etc... out of my own pocket.

I do it because I love dogs. There's lots of truth when people say "I like my dog better than most people"

Yea... I have a strong opinion on this subject. That is because I have witnessed first hand what people do to innocent animals.

Rant finished!

[manfreakca]

must be nice stroll outa prision and make millions again like nothing even happened.Playin pro sports to me is a gift and not taken for granted specially the money u make.I say u fuk up once in prision no more chances fuk how many people would die to play pro sports and make millions.wat kina image u sendin to kids ohh ill be bad but as long as i turn pro ill just do my time and play again