My Second Cycle

[Kilburn]

300mg EQ week 1-10
600mg Test E week 3-10
2mls Kynoselen EOD week 1-10
20mg M1T week 1-4
50mg Anadrol week 5-8

PCT

Nolva 40/40/20/20

The EQ is mostly to support my joints as it has a similiar effect to deca. critique?

[Kilburn]

oh and my history.

i'm 5'11, trained naturally for 3 years from 135lb to about 165-170lb range.

finished my first cycle which was test e 400mg week 1-8. it brought me up to my current weight of 190 pounds.

i bulked like crazy, i got a little fatter but also a hell of a lot stronger.

bench 225 for 12 touching chest. max? i dunno, around 275??
deadlift 315 for 8.
Squat 225 for 8.

my goal is to be a ripped 210.

[mcgee]

just run an oral for the first 4 weeks if this is second cycle(i.e. 50mg drol/day). Why the kenoselen? run test weeks 1-12.
just my two cents
meow

[Kilburn]

well EQ takes 5 weeks to kick where as test e only takes 2-3, so i thought staggering it like that would be smart so that they both kick at the same time.

k, i will run test 3-14 then.

kynoselen is just for the hell of it. it stops catabolic breakdown of muscle tissue, is loaded with vitamins and minerals and helps you shed bodyfat. i dont see any reason not to try it? the only reason i see is cause injecting eod is annoying.

[thecut]

looks good bro, i wouldnt bother with the kynoselen that sh1ts garbage in my opinion.

[gustavo77]

Definitely would not run MIT followed by anadrol bro, 8 weeks of two of the most toxic orals out there....i would not do that after all it is your liver.

At your body weight 400mg of Eq would be the minimum that i would recommend, i would also run it for a minimum of 12 weeks cause if it does not kick in for 6-8 weeks, why only benefit off of it for 2-3 weeks??...also i see no reason to stagger the test like that run it from the beginning with the eq. MIT will shut you down hard and fast, so you are gonna be lethargic as hell without any test in your system for 2-3 weeks. To be honest i would not recommend M1T to anyone, personally i think it is garbage (and yes i have ran it). Although it may increase strength, it is simply so toxic that i believe that there are far less toxic ways to get BETTER results. Again these are only my opinions but here is how i would run this bad dog:

1-14 Test E 600mg/wk
1-13 EQ 400mg/wk
1-4 Anadrol 50mg/day or d-bol 40mg/day
11-15 T-bol 50mg/day or winny 50mg/day or d-bol 40mg/day
1-(4 days before pct starts) HCG 250-500iu 2x per week
1-16 adex 0.5mg/day or Aromasin 25mg/day

The test is ran one week longer than the Eq due to Eq longer half life and starting pct with the test and EQ half lives running out at the same time...other wise you waste your pct drugs IMO by starting pct before the EQ half life clears. The oral at the end will help with any plateaus and also help solidify your gains. Also the orals are spread out properly to allow liver enzymes to return to normal after the initial oral run...milk thistle or LIv52 would be beneficial during the weeks that you are off orals. Hope all this helps a little!!

[RJ*]

Definitely would not run MIT followed by anadrol bro, 8 weeks of two of the most toxic orals out there....i would not do that after all it is your liver.

At your body weight 400mg of Eq would be the minimum that i would recommend, i would also run it for a minimum of 12 weeks cause if it does not kick in for 6-8 weeks, why only benefit off of it for 2-3 weeks??...also i see no reason to stagger the test like that run it from the beginning with the eq. MIT will shut you down hard and fast, so you are gonna be lethargic as hell without any test in your system for 2-3 weeks. To be honest i would not recommend M1T to anyone, personally i think it is garbage (and yes i have ran it). Although it may increase strength, it is simply so toxic that i believe that there are far less toxic ways to get BETTER results. Again these are only my opinions but here is how i would run this bad dog:

1-14 Test E 600mg/wk
1-13 EQ 400mg/wk
1-4 Anadrol 50mg/day or d-bol 40mg/day
11-15 T-bol 50mg/day or winny 50mg/day or d-bol 40mg/day
1-(4 days before pct starts) HCG 250-500iu 2x per week
1-16 adex 0.5mg/day or Aromasin 25mg/day

The test is ran one week longer than the Eq due to Eq longer half life and starting pct with the test and EQ half lives running out at the same time...other wise you waste your pct drugs IMO by starting pct before the EQ half life clears. The oral at the end will help with any plateaus and also help solidify your gains. Also the orals are spread out properly to allow liver enzymes to return to normal after the initial oral run...milk thistle or LIv52 would be beneficial during the weeks that you are off orals. Hope all this helps a little!!
not nbad suggestions
although the AI's id go .5 eod, or 12.5 EOD for a low does like that and im gyno prone.

this is what id do personally

1-14 Test E 600mg/wk
1-13 EQ 400mg/wk
1-5 or d-bol 40mg/day (preferably var but meh)
12-16 var or tbol or prop
1-16 adex 0.5mg EOD or E3D or Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD

[gustavo77]

not nbad suggestions
although the AI's id go .5 eod, or 12.5 EOD for a low does like that and im gyno prone.

this is what id do personally

1-14 Test E 600mg/wk
1-13 EQ 400mg/wk
1-5 or d-bol 40mg/day (preferably var but meh)
12-16 var or tbol or prop
1-16 adex 0.5mg EOD or E3D or Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD

Eod dosing is ok for Adex but not for Aromasin. Aromasin only has a half life of 24 hours...eod dosing will cause hormone fluctuations. 12.5mg per day may suffice for non-sensitive individuals but gyno and bloating are only two of the side effects of elevated estrogen. You always have to keep in mind that your body is producing a lot more estrogen on cycle, so an AI dose off cycle that brings estrogen below normal will only bring your estrogen levels to around normal level on cycle. If 600mg of test per week is appox 6x more than normal, how much higher do you think your estrogen levels are than normal?? AI use on cycle and during PCT is so much more important than many believe IMHO.

I know some people like to run orals right up to pct and it is not bad i suppose, it is just that personally i like to have orals out of system for at least a week before starting pct...just me though. You don't use HCG in your cycles???

[bigdaddydrew123]

i agree with guys go longer with test and eq, they both take awhile to get going, 14 weeks would be good,diet is going to be key, lots of water, watch your carbs lots of protein,especially if you want to be ripped, might be hard to go from fat 190 to ripped 210,but a ripped 190 is gonna look like your over two. maybe make your goal to be more diet concious, as in no junk just growth food ie lean protein , good luck, research nutrition .kepp us posted.

[Kilburn]

well, i already bought the kynoselen and M1T so **** it. it's getting used.

[Mr.Freeze]

just drink alot of water then!

[simon85]

I'm stacking tren ace(100mg eod) / test prop(200mg eod) and m1t(40mg/ed for 25 days)

It's sure it will be bad ass

[Houstonbc]

m1t is toxic but so are d bol and a bombs personally i like m1t's and theyve given me great gains im currently running them along with sust250 and deca300. so yeah i say keep em in there for sure ! i would maybe take the m1t at the start of the cycle wks1-4 and then throw the drol in for the last 4 weeks