What AI to use with Deca?

[bottleneckblooz]

What AI should I use if I want to do 500mg test w/ 200mg deca per week? I've never ran Deca before, and I just want to try it for some joint problems I've been having to see if it helps. Lately I've been having a bitch of a time with my joints...guess I'm gettin old...:(

[Bowlcut]

Have you tried taking lots of omega 3's to help with the inflammation?
Also are you taking ephedrine or have taken lots of it? Ephedrine puts wholes in the stomach which in turn can let cartilage from chicken enter your blood stream and in turn cause inflammation.

Try the omega 3's if you haven't already.

[bottleneckblooz]

Have you tried taking lots of omega 3's to help with the inflammation?
Also are you taking ephedrine or have taken lots of it? Ephedrine puts wholes in the stomach which in turn can let cartilage from chicken enter your blood stream and in turn cause inflammation.

Try the omega 3's if you haven't already.

No, I don't touch ephedrine. But thanks for the tip on the Omega 3's, I'll try that.

[Bowlcut]

Try the omega 3's at a dose of 3gram a day and see how that goes. At that dose you will see some great health benefits.

[bottleneckblooz]

Try the omega 3's at a dose of 3gram a day and see how that goes. At that dose you will see some great health benefits.

I'll try it, but I'd still like to know what the best AI to use with Deca would be.

[thecut]

arimidex/aromison, just avoid letrozole unless it becomes absolutely necessary.

[simon85]

A very low dose of letro will do the job. Don't go too high because you will feel like shit and you won't gain.

Usually, deca under 600mg won't cause any progestone gyno. You're prone to it?

[simon85]

arimidex/aromison, just avoid letrozole unless it becomes absolutely necessary.

Hey bro. I believe arimidex and aromasin don't fight progestone gyno. Letro, bromo and cabergoline do.

[AlbertaBeef]

I would use dostinex/caber at .5mg twice a week. That's a pretty low dose of deca so I wouldn't worry about an AI unless you've had some problems prior.

[bottleneckblooz]

A very low dose of letro will do the job. Don't go too high because you will feel like shit and you won't gain.

Usually, deca under 600mg won't cause any progestone gyno. You're prone to it?

Well I got gyno from a Winstrol only cycle so you tell me lol. Actually I had gyno surgery a year and a half ago but I just want to be extra careful to be sure it doesn't come back. The problem with Letro is the only source I have only carries 2.5 mg caps. If I were going to use it I would only want to use 0.5 mg/day. Kind of hard to split up a capsule.

If I did Dostinex, would that prevent gyno from the test as well?

[gustavo77]

Well I got gyno from a Winstrol only cycle so you tell me lol. Actually I had gyno surgery a year and a half ago but I just want to be extra careful to be sure it doesn't come back. The problem with Letro is the only source I have only carries 2.5 mg caps. If I were going to use it I would only want to use 0.5 mg/day. Kind of hard to split up a capsule.

If I did Dostinex, would that prevent gyno from the test as well?

Use aromasin (25mg/day) or arimidex (0.5-1mg/day) for estrogen issues and cabergoline for prolactin issues (0.5mg every 3rd day or simply 2x per week). And no caber will not prevent gyno from test as it has no effect on estrogen and gyno from test comes from excess estrogen. When taking only 200mg of deca per week i would not be too concerned with prolactin gyno, just get some adex or aromasin for the estrogen control.

[Mr Ontario]

Deca will just mask the problem obviously...we have all used the excuse to a roid due to health issue. Someone mentioned trying the natural route...Lakota for axample...plus make cheaper in the long run. Sonic Relief also may be a solution!?

[gustavo77]

Agreed, deca will only mask the symptoms bro. The combination that worked wonders for me is: Omega 3's (i take wild salmon oils in caps 3grams 2x per day), glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM. My knees feel great, squatting heavy with no pain or inflamation.

[bottleneckblooz]

For me it's my shoulder that has always been the problem. My knee was giving me a slight problem a while back but it went away when I changed up my leg routine. I have a physio appointment coming up so we'll see how it goes.

I've tried glucosamine before and it didn't help my shoulder, but I've never tried the combination of Omega 3's and chondroitin with it. Thanks for the tip.

[gustavo77]

Here's another tip. I had a lagging shoulder issue for almost a year, nothing seemed to help. Then my chiropractor recommended ultra-sound therapy. At first i was skeptical but then after he explained it to me, it made perfect sense.

Ultra-sound penetrates tissue and bone but not calcium deposits (scar tissue), it simply bounces off of it and cumulatively breaks it up. It is this build up of scar tissue that often prevents injuries from fully healing. Now the treatment is cumulative but i tell you after six weeks of treatments (2-3x per week) my shoulder felt fantastic. After 8 weeks i was incline benching heavy weight with no pain or discomfort at all....felt good after having to limit myself to certain exercises for like 8 months. Give it try bro and it may help...by the way not all chiro's do it, so you may have to call around. When and if you get this therapy done, make sure that the chiro puts some current through your shoulder for 10-15 minutes prior to the ultra sound. This will increase blood flow and help flush out the calcium that is being broken up.

[RJ*]

ultra sound is the win
i take 10 grams of fish oils a day, best supp ever for real
aas for joint probs really isnt the answer man,
id go with
therapy (intensive stretching, US, massage, chiro, ART, etc)
fish oil

that usually solves most problems

[bottleneckblooz]

Here's another tip. I had a lagging shoulder issue for almost a year, nothing seemed to help. Then my chiropractor recommended ultra-sound therapy. At first i was skeptical but then after he explained it to me, it made perfect sense.

Ultra-sound penetrates tissue and bone but not calcium deposits (scar tissue), it simply bounces off of it and cumulatively breaks it up. It is this build up of scar tissue that often prevents injuries from fully healing. Now the treatment is cumulative but i tell you after six weeks of treatments (2-3x per week) my shoulder felt fantastic. After 8 weeks i was incline benching heavy weight with no pain or discomfort at all....felt good after having to limit myself to certain exercises for like 8 months. Give it try bro and it may help...by the way not all chiro's do it, so you may have to call around. When and if you get this therapy done, make sure that the chiro puts some current through your shoulder for 10-15 minutes prior to the ultra sound. This will increase blood flow and help flush out the calcium that is being broken up.

Yeah I know what you mean. I've had that done before (for my other shoulder) and it worked great. The only reason I was holding off this time was because I didn't have insurance. I just got some coverage though so I made an appointment. I really hope it works as well as it did the first time, I hate not being able to train chest and shoulders, and right now I'm pretty much not doing any upper body work at all.

[gustavo77]

The treatments do cost some $$ but it is so worth it...I highly suggest you hold off on all gear till you get that shoulder treated and healed. You'll risk injuring permanently if you do gear now and train it.

[Cappy]

G has it right, heal first and fully. Cost myself football and rugby and a lot of mass lost after reconstructive surgery and rehab...

[Bowlcut]

The treatments do cost some $$ but it is so worth it...I highly suggest you hold off on all gear till you get that shoulder treated and healed. You'll risk injuring permanently if you do gear now and train it.

Active Release Therapy can be a cheaper alternative. Depending on coverage you could pay about $25 for a visit and though it is painful it works amazingly for addressing the problems you mentioned.

Again Gustavo is correct about holding off of gear. Why use gear when one could try a natural route instead and achieve the identical result?

[RJ*]

Active Release Therapy can be a cheaper alternative. Depending on coverage you could pay about $25 for a visit and though it is painful it works amazingly for addressing the problems you mentioned.

Again Gustavo is correct about holding off of gear. Why use gear when one could try a natural route instead and achieve the identical result?

shit in SK it was 16 a visit
it ruled

[D-S]

If you use letro, you'll have no progesterone problems from deca b/c it needs estrogen present to cause a problem

but letro is a sex drive killer, bad for the heart and takes a while to kick in fully

[Bowlcut]

shit in SK it was 16 a visit
it ruled

That is why socialism gets you ;) JK.