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ergie
12-12-2007, 01:34 PM
Please only reply if you know what you are talking about..........

Anybody know how to spot a fake?

guest
12-12-2007, 03:09 PM
jesus, where to start? i think that is the most faked item around. maybe post a pic?

BolicPower
12-12-2007, 03:15 PM
Never used so can't help you there guy

tarnow
12-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Please only reply if you know what you are talking about..........

Anybody know how to spot a fake?

I know that alot of the fakes had rounded corners on the labels, the exp. date and lot # was printed in blue or purple ink on the fakes instead of black, the printing of the main label should be a greyish black and not a solid black and the box that the vials come in have a pharmacy sticker on them that have a distinct mark when placed under UV light.

Mr Ontario
12-12-2007, 05:38 PM
I wouldn't buy them local here in Ontario or Canada for that matter. Highly faked for sure. Well know international source would be the way to go..but dammmm customs is always a problem.

ergie
12-12-2007, 06:38 PM
My labels peel off very easily, usually a sign of a fake......... Feck I wish UG labs were still around, that sure made life alot easier. I'll post a pic in a bit here guys

TheBigStink
12-12-2007, 09:02 PM
My labels peel off very easily, usually a sign of a fake......... Feck I wish UG labs were still around, that sure made life alot easier. I'll post a pic in a bit here guys

yes, i remember that being a sign of a possible fake. really, there have been so many diff attempts on that item i would just steer clear or it. i have seen tests from europe on yellow tops that were visibly indiscernible from legit ones and tested poorly.
of course this does not help you if you already have some you need to reference. pics will definately help.

Houstonbc
12-12-2007, 09:45 PM
i know that there used to be (but i haven t checked it out in a few months )comparison pictures of real and fake human grade gear on steroid.com i think in the forum section

Mr Ontario
12-12-2007, 09:48 PM
Yes! You almost need to update yourself every 2 months to keep up with the fakes/vials/company new vials etc. Personally everytime I see one..they look fake to me. I wouldn't buy any unless I saw them come out of the pharmacy myself in that country! :)

Bowlcut
12-12-2007, 10:45 PM
i know that there used to be (but i haven t checked it out in a few months )comparison pictures of real and fake human grade gear on steroid.com i think in the forum section

Is that the website where Anthony Roberts makes home? If so I would doubt everything you read and see on it.

St
12-12-2007, 11:44 PM
Is that the website where Anthony Roberts makes home? If so I would doubt everything you read and see on it.


Yes sir.

shithead
13-12-2007, 09:34 AM
Stay away from those for sure! Expensive and shitty. Even overseas sources are crap most of the time IMO.

Mr Ontario
13-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Go with what Shithead says.....he has probably darted himself with many fakes over the years. lol :)


Stay away from those for sure! Expensive and shitty. Even overseas sources are crap most of the time IMO.

ergie
13-12-2007, 07:21 PM
Good old ****ing shithead

gustavo77
13-12-2007, 11:28 PM
Ya shithead way to **** up Fergie's day....do you always have to be so negative??..lol.

Dr.Dose
13-12-2007, 11:46 PM
There is only very few people in Europe that can get these that are real, and they are expensive! Other then that the fakes are produced by a few and they are very high quality with very minimal differences in them. One thing to look at is the "g" in organon. May have problems as it is a font that is not present in any program and even if they do duplicate the exact "g" there, then it is slightly out of line form the rest of the letters. It floats up a bit in the fakes. My opinion, stay clear of these, as 95% chance that you will get a fake. These are very expensive and even the fakes that are made, guess what they test out as real too. But real does not mean that the quality is there like it is in Organon Deca!

gustavo77
14-12-2007, 01:17 AM
Great insight Dr. Dose... I remember a friend of mine had an issue with HG gear before on another board and you gave him some very accurate and insightful info...very nice to have you chime in here and help out ol' Fergdog.

Houstonbc
15-12-2007, 01:01 AM
you just have to have a good source i know there are real hg karachi sust, organon sust, galenika test e floating around canada right now all real. organons are the hardest fakes to spot i think

Mr Ontario
15-12-2007, 11:15 AM
I don't think anyone was stating there wasn't real gear around to obtain..it was the yellow tops he was concerned about.


you just have to have a good source i know there are real hg karachi sust, organon sust, galenika test e floating around canada right now all real. organons are the hardest fakes to spot i think

guest
15-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Please only reply if you know what you are talking about..........

Anybody know how to spot a fake?


There is only very few people in Europe that can get these that are real, and they are expensive! Other then that the fakes are produced by a few and they are very high quality with very minimal differences in them. One thing to look at is the "g" in organon. May have problems as it is a font that is not present in any program and even if they do duplicate the exact "g" there, then it is slightly out of line form the rest of the letters. It floats up a bit in the fakes. My opinion, stay clear of these, as 95% chance that you will get a fake. These are very expensive and even the fakes that are made, guess what they test out as real too. But real does not mean that the quality is there like it is in Organon Deca!


thanks Doc, your insight is always appreciated.

this is the most up to date and accurate answer we are going to get.

ergie
15-12-2007, 04:25 PM
I posted pics on a board Mr.O told me about, my amps are 100% fake :(

ergie
15-12-2007, 04:28 PM
The labes are little beat up from pulling them off, tried this because on most legit pharm grade products the label sticks damn good......... these labels came off in one piece.

St
15-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Well your yellow cap is real.

guest
15-12-2007, 09:00 PM
shitty bro. sorry to hear.
nice to see the 'g' is exactly like dose described.

Houstonbc
15-12-2007, 10:38 PM
sorry about the bad luck bro

Turtle
16-12-2007, 08:59 AM
no offence to you but lol @ those pics. looks like i could make better labels then those. but sorry to hear you got bunk gear.

gustavo77
16-12-2007, 12:29 PM
no offence to you but lol @ those pics. looks like i could make better labels then those. but sorry to hear you got bunk gear.

The labels look that way cause Fergie pulled them off to check for authenticity. Generally HG labels are hard as shit to get off, Fergie said these came of very easily...hence another indicator of fake gear.

Kilburn
16-12-2007, 03:26 PM
so what then? are you going to use it anyways or go tell your source to give you something else?

BolicPower
16-12-2007, 03:52 PM
Well, from what i can see it's fake, BUT so you know lots of fakes did have test in it so people see results, i'd ask for my money back, or if you use, make sure you take a picture of you and weight your self to see if just oil? But you dont' know what's going in, id just get $$$ back

Mr Ontario
16-12-2007, 04:15 PM
I know what he is going to do..he is going to sell it someone else. :)


so what then? are you going to use it anyways or go tell your source to give you something else?

ergie
16-12-2007, 05:24 PM
I know what he is going to do..he is going to sell it someone else. :)

Do you need some good legit deca? I've got some if your interested :D

BAM
16-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Hmmm, Call it "'Empire''

lol

Dr.Dose
17-12-2007, 04:09 AM
thanks Doc, your insight is always appreciated.

this is the most up to date and accurate answer we are going to get.


Thanks bro. Also another easy way to spot these fakes in most instances is in the serial number of the product "24119/310", the "4" on the fakes is closed and on the real ones the "4" is open. This is another quick give away for this product ;-).

simon85
17-12-2007, 11:59 PM
When you're paying for human grade, you should received the real deal, not fake deca made by an UGL. I can't believe his answer. He lost my respect.

tarnow
18-12-2007, 06:54 AM
When you're paying for human grade, you should received the real deal, not fake deca made by an UGL. I can't believe his answer. He lost my respect.

Those are desperate words from a desperate man who knows he got caught in the act. You would think a top source like that would make good on a **** up like that instead of back pedaling. I think he just lost himself alot of future customers.

ergie
18-12-2007, 09:34 AM
His reply made me laugh, thought he would have come up with something better.

ergie
18-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Just found out that this particular fake contains a little bit of prop and thats it.

gustavo77
18-12-2007, 02:53 PM
What POS that guy is....****ing prop.

Kilburn
18-12-2007, 10:03 PM
am i missing somethng here? what did your source say?

TheBigStink
18-12-2007, 11:32 PM
am i missing somethng here? what did your source say?

BUMP for that.

gojimmygo
18-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Fawk sorry for your loss Ferg...Those aren't cheap:( Hopefully the scumbag will try to make this right (He's taking a beating in your other post) and try for a refund so he doesn't send some more "quality" gear.

ergie
19-12-2007, 06:21 PM
Nah the scumbag wont do a thing, just says there fine and to trust him lol Where you been hiding LJ?

simon85
20-12-2007, 12:55 PM
It's sucks we can't read this thread anymore... I don't know what the hell is going on.

gustavo77
20-12-2007, 06:20 PM
They are saying that it is down for maintenance. I hope so.....

ergie
20-12-2007, 06:56 PM
It is, they are upgrading there server or so I've heard.

tarnow
23-12-2007, 08:20 PM
Admin locked the thread and said that Z will fix everything after Christmas. Whatever that means?

ergie
23-12-2007, 08:47 PM
I doubt he'll fix anything........

simon85
31-12-2007, 02:46 AM
I doubt he'll fix anything........

Hey. He just wrote a thread about this. Check out on the board. He said his last batch was 100% fake and he will resolve this. So, contact him!

BAM
31-12-2007, 10:06 PM
I think I'll stay natty for a while and just sit back and watch the guinee pigs and see what happens.

Sean
12-01-2008, 06:26 PM
Did you manage to get your money back Fergie?

ergie
12-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Not yet although my source insists he sent them via WU, I tried to p them up and was told neither transfer was any good.

Sean
13-01-2008, 12:49 PM
Unbelievable!! His Sups are fake and then proceeds scamming by lying about reimbursing funds. I can't see why anyone would want him sourcing anywhere. Stay far away from Z.. I still can't believe some people are willing to buy off of him and bump him WTF?? He admitted everything was Bunk (What is wrong with people?)! Well he was takin down from PM as a sponsor. I'd personally stay away from any board that promotes Scammers like that. IMHO he's done, no Mod (in there right mind) is going to bump him, and if they do someone will state the facts about what he did knowingly! F*CK' EM....

MuSuLPhReAk
13-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Can someone fill me in? I feel a little left out :(

Mr Ontario
13-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Poor Poor Fergie lol I think I should get a cut of that refunded money!? lol :D


Not yet although my source insists he sent them via WU, I tried to p them up and was told neither transfer was any good.

Sean
26-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Can someone fill me in? I feel a little left out

Fergie got scammed by Z and alot of others did as well. Z admitted selling his customers fake Steroids (Alot of different types) and said they where good to go because he tested them making sure they contained the active ingrediant (Even though he knew they where fake). Z was takin off of PM and a few other boards, but now he's back on the boards as a sponsor WTF? Even the boards that posted him as a scammer by other members had their posts deleted. Any board where someone talked about Z ripping his costumers off had their posts deleted. So Z admits ripping his costumers off and selling them fakes, yet they all hide it and keep him on as a sponsor UNBELIEVABLE!!

I guess these boards need the funds to keep running, so why not keep the scammers. THEY PAY! Fergie I really don't think he'll pay you, because you wrecked his scam. He reinbursed alot of other people, but you made his scamming public by posting that pic. You would think other people would back you since you helped them, but that's the way it goes. Stay clear of boards that sponsor him. Any board that let's sources scam their members is a joke!! If that was me and he knew he was selling me crap that I was injecting into my body (I'd be F@CKIN livid)!

Mr Ontario
26-01-2008, 06:03 PM
Can you just say what Z stands for and what bodybuilding boards do so....it's out in the open now anyways.


Fergie got scammed by Z and alot of others did as well. Z admitted selling his customers fake Steroids (Alot of different types) and said they where good to go because he tested them making sure they contained the active ingrediant (Even though he knew they where fake). Z was takin off of PM and a few other boards, but now he's back on the boards as a sponsor WTF? Even the boards that posted him as a scammer by other members had their posts deleted. Any board where someone talked about Z ripping his costumers off had their posts deleted. So Z admits ripping his costumers off and selling them fakes, yet they all hide it and keep him on as a sponsor UNBELIEVABLE!!

I guess these boards need the funds to keep running, so why not keep the scammers. THEY PAY! Fergie I really don't think he'll pay you, because you wrecked his scam. He reinbursed alot of other people, but you made his scamming public by posting that pic. You would think other people would back you since you helped them, but that's the way it goes. Stay clear of boards that sponsor him. Any board that let's sources scam their members is a joke!! If that was me and he knew he was selling me crap that I was injecting into my body (I'd be F@CKIN livid)!

Big D
26-01-2008, 06:17 PM
Can you just say what Z stands for and what bodybuilding boards do so....it's out in the open now anyways.

I agree, it would be nice

gustavo77
26-01-2008, 06:46 PM
Z is your Uncle.

Mr Ontario
26-01-2008, 06:49 PM
and G is for Gus. lol I guess I never hand the honor of knowing the UNCLE lol

Thanks...G someone did P.M me because I'm internationally challenged!


Z is your Uncle.

gustavo77
26-01-2008, 06:56 PM
and G is for Gus. lol I guess I never hand the honor of knowing the UNCLE lol

Thanks...G someone did P.M me because I'm internationally challenged!

Ya and Unkie Herb is still pleading his case, such a loser....selective scammers are the worst. Well unless Ferg's funds get returned ferg made a decent donation to the board that **** stick sponsors.

simon85
26-01-2008, 07:25 PM
That sucks man.

I ordered from him Serms(nolvadex) and clen tabs(hubei). I waited 10 days until he said all the nolva was out of stock. So, I asked for anfarm clomid instead.

He shipped my order asap and he gave me a free bottle of clen. I will try the clen next week and I let you know if it's legit.

Mr Ontario
26-01-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm still waiting for my donation for Fergo!


Ya and Unkie Herb is still pleading his case, such a loser....selective scammers are the worst. Well unless Ferg's funds get returned ferg made a decent donation to the board that **** stick sponsors.

gustavo77
26-01-2008, 09:26 PM
That sucks man.

I ordered from him Serms(nolvadex) and clen tabs(hubei). I waited 10 days until he said all the nolva was out of stock. So, I asked for anfarm clomid instead.

He shipped my order asap and he gave me a free bottle of clen. I will try the clen next week and I let you know if it's legit.

Did he send you a free bottle of liquid clen, or a bottle of Hubei clen?? Cause if it is a bottle of Hebei clen then i have never heard of that. All of the Hubei i've seen has come in blister packs.

Sean
26-01-2008, 10:10 PM
You know what really bothers me about all this. It's the fact that the guy admitted knowing he was selling FAKE AAS and yet he's still a sponsor on many boards. If that Deca was Prop, imagine what could of happened. Your taking Bromo, when you should of been taking A-Dex "Imagine that ride". You're sticking unknown substances into your body with a needle, it's not funny. People who compete would also see there hard earned gains get flushed down the toilet. Now there is an uprising on his Sustanon being fake, yet he's still a sponsor WTF. I sent out a couple of pm's to other boards asking why he's still a sponsor, we'll see what they say. I also remember Z was accused just over a year ago selling Fake Deca to a VIP member. I'm looking into this as we speak, making sure it was Z (It might not of been but we'll see).

simon85
26-01-2008, 10:14 PM
Did he send you a free bottle of liquid clen, or a bottle of Hubei clen?? Cause if it is a bottle of Hebei clen then i have never heard of that. All of the Hubei i've seen has come in blister packs.

Hey man.

It's exactly this:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3287/attachment4qi7.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attachment4qi7.jpg)

Also, body of science approved this product. I only saw good comments about it.

ergie
27-01-2008, 01:06 PM
You won't see alot of fakes of Hubei clen because its cheap chinese clen, no point in faking it.

gustavo77
27-01-2008, 03:28 PM
Ya i am sure it is legit clen but the hubei i had in the past were in blister packs with hubei printed on them.

Sean
27-01-2008, 04:33 PM
So far they have found
1. Primo
2. Turkey Sus
3. UK Sus
4. Karachi Sus
5. Deca

and they're on the wall with his Naps. ALL FAKE!!!

ergie
27-01-2008, 04:44 PM
His naps were tested to only contain methyl test, not dbol.

ktbo
28-01-2008, 06:56 PM
i recently did 15 of them. didnt gain a thing. they looked real even had the box. i did my research too and have been on gear for years. ya just never know i guess

frenchy
28-01-2008, 10:11 PM
Go here http://forums.steroid.com and wait for dutchbodybuilder to answer. Post a clear pic.Better yet post a bunch of clear pics and him and his compadros will let you know if anything is fake. They are from where steroids are legal ssooooooooo you can save all the jibber jabber and get a quick answer. its always worked for me

Sean
29-01-2008, 12:59 PM
WTF? I was banned at outlaw muscle? Anyone know why? Oh yeah Z had me banned, go figure. Nice Mod crew over there, can't even let me know by PM or anything. Sponsors first, fake gear second and maybe members next. Nice board.

Written by Z

Hey Guys

Sorry for delayed response , we're pretty busy , especially being close to Xmas

I'll be straight about the great tragedy mentioned here about our durabolin.

Known and mentioned fact here is that there are tons of faked durabolin flying around , and we're aware of this. (like most of other sources)

That's why we said our is fine , potent and clean , not original straight from pharmacy store

We sell it for a long time , test it and use ourselves with 100% expected effects and great feedback , excluding this thread ... (why that sudden change after tons of them sold in past years with great feedback and same demand)

Same situation with our popular IP line which u can say isn't legit , couse reprocessed and tested on our end - also 100% potent and clean - quess why there's no complains about it ..... (we care for what we offer and sell)

The next fact known by experienced ppl from industry and sources is that there are fakes of particular gear and not original versions (100% fine , just not looking like originals from pharmacies)

There's always a few % of complaining customers , too many orders and ppl to be perfect and please everyone

(we can't help it if someone doesn't take breaks between cycles or in other way doesn't let system to get back to natural conditions , and expects great effects with further cycles...)

Also fyi there are 100% original,legit products in the market that are NOT that legit as u might think , it's a matter of how long and deep you dig

The main conclusion and our adivice is not to buy it if you don't trust us.
It's mainly all about trust if it comes to gear and that bizz - we're a known source with great rep. , that's why you use only known , trusted sources which care and test what they sell

Think about that ...

All the best and Happy Xmas
Z.


Amazing!! Anyone notice Z says "think about that" in his post. He bumped himself as someone else, on his fake gear thread!! What a Z=ZERO...

Mr Ontario
29-01-2008, 05:56 PM
This post is getting old! Stay the fack away from Yellow Tops...SIMPLE! If not you get what you pay for.

ergie
29-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Hey Mr. O can you get the chick in your avi to take off her panties, I wanna have a peek ;)

Mr Ontario
29-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Yes! I will ask her...just for you!


Hey Mr. O can you get the chick in your avi to take off her panties, I wanna have a peek ;)

champcar99
29-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Hey Mr. O can you get the chick in your avi to take off her panties, I wanna have a peek ;)

Me too...:D

Big D
29-01-2008, 09:25 PM
haha ya that sounds good